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Ex-pornstar brutally raped in her own home. Feminists go silent.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/ex-pornstar-gets-violently-raped-feminist-silent/

http://www.reaxxion.com/5498/porn-actress-mercedes-carrera-slams-anita-sarkeesian-and-feminist-hypocrisy

Cliffs:
- Ex-pornstar Cytherea gets house broken in to by 5 juvenile boys. Husband gets beaten. Kids held at gunpoint. Cytherea gets raped several times
- Feminists completely ignore the story
- Fellow pornstar Mercedes Carrera calls out feminists on their hypocricy and bull****
- Compares feminist coverage of this to the Rolling Stone college rape story a few months back, which turned out to be false

Why do you think feminists ignored this henious crime? Could it be that the victim used to be a pornstar and therefore didn't fit in with their picture of an ideal woman? Or perhaps it interfered with their ultra-PC racial sensibilities, since all 5 perpetrators were black?
What do you think?
Reply 1
What do you mean"feminists go silent"? This doesn't appear to have been reported in any of the major news outlets, and the sources you give appear to be quite obscure. We can't be angry about something if we don't know that it's happened.
Original post by Blazar
We can't be angry about something if we don't know that it's happened.


Being feminists, I'm pretty sure you could. :holmes:
Original post by little_wizard123
Being feminists, I'm pretty sure you could. :holmes:


Good call. I was offended by the comments in this thread before I even read them. Or they were even made.
Reply 4
Original post by Blazar
What do you mean"feminists go silent"? This doesn't appear to have been reported in any of the major news outlets, and the sources you give appear to be quite obscure. We can't be angry about something if we don't know that it's happened.


This story is about a month old. That's plenty of time for feminist youtubers, bloggers, writers, etc.. to catch wind of it. They catch on to every other obscure news piece that fits their agenda. Obviously it wasn't completely obscure if I managed to hear about it. Carrera says in her video that she contacted Anita Sarkeesian about the story, to which she received no reply.
Also,the mainstream media, has no problem reporting other supposed rape stories, even when there is a complete lack of evidence, as shown in the Rolling Stone false rape story mentioned above.
Original post by Viva Emptiness
Good call. I was offended by the comments in this thread before I even read them. Or they were even made.


Me too, my ears started burning and I just started feeling this seething anger in my gut. I knew something offensive must be happening somewhere.
Original post by MattyR2895
This story is about a month old. That's plenty of time for feminist youtubers, bloggers, writers, etc.. to catch wind of it. They catch on to every other obscure news piece that fits their agenda. Obviously it wasn't completely obscure if I managed to hear about it. Carrera says in her video that she contacted Anita Sarkeesian about the story, to which she received no reply.
Also,the mainstream media, has no problem reporting other supposed rape stories, even when there is a complete lack of evidence, as shown in the Rolling Stone false rape story mentioned above.


Oh yes of course, the universal pinnacle of feminist ideals that is the mainstream media.

I had no idea about this. It is really awful.

There. Consider this feminist having spoken.
Reply 7
Original post by redferry
Oh yes of course, the universal pinnacle of feminist ideals that is the mainstream media.

I had no idea about this. It is really awful.

There. Consider this feminist having spoken.


Certain media outlets do seem to have been infiltrated by popular feminism, eg. gamergate and reporting on the nomorepage3 campaign, in which they pretty much pander to what feminists want to hear, portraying them as social justice warriors. Carrera talks about this in her video in the second article I linked.

And you didn't really say anything here. You just sort of condescendingly present a statement that you obviously disagree with like it is self-evidently false. You don't talk about the story at all.
Original post by MattyR2895
Certain media outlets do seem to have been infiltrated by popular feminism, eg. gamergate and reporting on the nomorepage3 campaign, in which they pretty much pander to what feminists want to hear, portraying them as social justice warriors. Carrera talks about this in her video in the second article I linked.

And you didn't really say anything here. You just sort of condescendingly present a statement that you obviously disagree with like it is self-evidently false. You don't talk about the story at all.


Well I don't really know what you expect me to say? Were you hoping for 'she deserved it for being a pornstar' or something?

I think that the profession of the woman is completely irrelevant in the severity of the crime and therefore I didn't mention it.

Edit: also there's not much to say as I don't want to give traffic to those sites so didn't click the links and when I googled it all I could find were attacks against feminism and black people sooooo kind of hard to be informed on what happened.
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Reply 9
Original post by skd1996
I would have been extremely upset/angry if I had known about it, however this is the first I have seen.

As someone else said, it's not exactly in the main news or all over the Internet. You can't blame someone for not knowing something.


I'm not talking about every single feminist, just the one's that you usually see putting content up about the victimisation of women on youtube for example. I find it hard to believe that these feminists have been completely ignorant to this story.
Reply 10
Original post by MattyR2895
This story is about a month old. That's plenty of time for feminist youtubers, bloggers, writers, etc.. to catch wind of it. They catch on to every other obscure news piece that fits their agenda. Obviously it wasn't completely obscure if I managed to hear about it. Carrera says in her video that she contacted Anita Sarkeesian about the story, to which she received no reply.
Also,the mainstream media, has no problem reporting other supposed rape stories, even when there is a complete lack of evidence, as shown in the Rolling Stone false rape story mentioned above.


This is the first I've heard of the story, and as I said, it doesn't appear to have been reported in the major news outlets that most feminists read - because hey, we're normal people who believe in equality. We don't have a special newspaper for that or anything. As far as I know, Anita Sarkeesian is just some random blogger who's got a bit of attention in the past - she's not a feminist news outlet for the masses, despite what some people seem to think. If she was contacted, I don't know her personal motives for not responding yet, but that doesn't mean that you can tar all feminists with the same brush.

Also, this is a problem that's to do with the media rather than feminism, and whether consciously or not, you alluded to this in your post. The mainstream media tends to value some women more than others, based on perceived qualities such as attractiveness and respectability. If it was a film star or a singer who had suffered this horrendous attack, I'm sure we would have heard volumes about it, because the victim would be seen as innocent and respectable. But the sad fact is that the media either thinks that reporting about a sex worker being raped would be seen as degrading the quality of their journalism, or that she somehow "deserved" it for being a sex worker so it's not worth reporting.

There's also an ongoing problem with the attitude that men can't be raped, which led to minor coverage of Shia LaBoeuf saying that he was raped, but it was mostly framed in a manner that was intended to make him look ridiculous - because everyone knows that men can't be victims of rape or abuse because they're big and strong and manly and they'd beat up anyone who tried anything funny with them. Unfortunately, there's a similar attitude towards sex workers. People seem to think that sex workers, or people who have been sex workers in the past, are all "sluts" so it's impossible for them not to want sex at any point in their lives ever, therefore they can't be raped. Either that, or it's the possibly religiously influenced attitude that being raped is a "punishment" for engaging in sex work, because God forbid they actually have a choice as to what they do with their own bodies.

The irony is that feminism actually seeks to get rid of these attitudes. People shouldn't be excluded from equality because of what they personally choose to do with their body. They're not harming anyone and it's nobody's business to interfere with their career choice, any more than it would be if they were becoming doctors or taxi drivers. As for the perpetrators, who cares that they were black? They raped another human being and attacked her family. They belong behind bars. The colour of their skin is irrelevant.
Original post by Blazar
This is the first I've heard of the story, and as I said, it doesn't appear to have been reported in the major news outlets that most feminists read - because hey, we're normal people who believe in equality. We don't have a special newspaper for that or anything. As far as I know, Anita Sarkeesian is just some random blogger who's got a bit of attention in the past - she's not a feminist news outlet for the masses, despite what some people seem to think. If she was contacted, I don't know her personal motives for not responding yet, but that doesn't mean that you can tar all feminists with the same brush.

Also, this is a problem that's to do with the media rather than feminism, and whether consciously or not, you alluded to this in your post. The mainstream media tends to value some women more than others, based on perceived qualities such as attractiveness and respectability. If it was a film star or a singer who had suffered this horrendous attack, I'm sure we would have heard volumes about it, because the victim would be seen as innocent and respectable. But the sad fact is that the media either thinks that reporting about a sex worker being raped would be seen as degrading the quality of their journalism, or that she somehow "deserved" it for being a sex worker so it's not worth reporting.

There's also an ongoing problem with the attitude that men can't be raped, which led to minor coverage of Shia LaBoeuf saying that he was raped, but it was mostly framed in a manner that was intended to make him look ridiculous - because everyone knows that men can't be victims of rape or abuse because they're big and strong and manly and they'd beat up anyone who tried anything funny with them. Unfortunately, there's a similar attitude towards sex workers. People seem to think that sex workers, or people who have been sex workers in the past, are all "sluts" so it's impossible for them not to want sex at any point in their lives ever, therefore they can't be raped. Either that, or it's the possibly religiously influenced attitude that being raped is a "punishment" for engaging in sex work, because God forbid they actually have a choice as to what they do with their own bodies.

The irony is that feminism actually seeks to get rid of these attitudes. People shouldn't be excluded from equality because of what they personally choose to do with their body. They're not harming anyone and it's nobody's business to interfere with their career choice, any more than it would be if they were becoming doctors or taxi drivers. As for the perpetrators, who cares that they were black? They raped another human being and attacked her family. They belong behind bars. The colour of their skin is irrelevant.


Thank you, this is a wonderful post :smile:
I hope both herself and her family are able to recover from this; it can't be an easy thing to get over, so I hope they'll be alright.

I think it's outrageous that this story hasn't been given higher precedence in mainstream media (or it at least looks that way in terms of googling this story); the culprits of this horrific crime need to be named and shamed, before they begin a deservedly long stint of rotting in prison.
I'm curious as to why you think that this specific case should be something widely spread by feminism in general as opposed to any other case or just general furthering talk about rape.
I dislike feminists as much as the next person but I have to admit this thread is clutching at straws.
there is surely no useful work for specifically feminists to do in condemning this crime, it is for reasons unrelated to race and class dissimilar from the circumstances of, for example, campus date-rape.

1. Society condemns this crime - there is no-one who thinks gang-raping a woman in front of her children is high-spiritedness or that a home-invasion rape victim was likely asking for it.

2. Home invasion gunpoint gang-rapes are surely pretty well exactly as common as they are reported as being. There's no call to let anyone know that this goes on more than you would suppose.

3. There are no men who are in any doubt about the 'rules' governing how far you can go in home invasion gunpoint gang-rape.
(edited 9 years ago)
Is there some grand TSR cabal of manly keyboard warriors who quantatively monitor feminist outrage on the Internet and just wait for their moment to point out when outrage levels do not reach a certain threshold?
"Feminists go silent". (Apart from the ones in this thread)
Reply 18
Original post by MattyR2895
I'm not talking about every single feminist, just the one's that you usually see putting content up about the victimisation of women on youtube for example. I find it hard to believe that these feminists have been completely ignorant to this story.


Who are they?

I don't really look for feminist commentators myself.

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