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Original post by Aj12
Mujahedeen evolved into the Taliban yeah. I guess I got just one word wrong...
Original post by DiceTheSlice
Mujahedeen evolved into the Taliban yeah. I guess I got just one word wrong...
They are two very, very different groups. So no not one word, more completely misinterpretating a very complex conflict. The mujhadeen and taliban actuslly fought each other in the Afghan civil war.
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It's a war guys, a proper war, savagery like this always happens in an all out war usually from both sides, the only difference really is the extent of the brutality. To compare the rebels to Assad is silly, the rebels act mainly out of utter desperation to despose a dictator who has shown very little respect for the civil rights of his people. People resort to the most savage acts when they have no food or way of gratifying their basic desires, we should be attacking the lack of an organised force to handle this.
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Original post by DiceTheSlice
Mujahedeen evolved into the Taliban yeah. I guess I got just one word wrong...
The mujihadeen definately did not evolve into the Taliban! The fought the muhijhadeen for control of afghan so to impose their extremist views.
To make this point clear, because everyone seems to get this wrong....
The U.S. did NOT fund the Taliban.
They funded the mujihadeen. When the Russians left, a breakaway sect called the Taliban started a civil war.
To this day, you get ex mujihadeen who join the afghan army and police specifically so they can kill Taliban.
Please, can people get this in their heads, it's a real annoyance of mine that people always get this wrong
Original post by tim_123
The mujihadeen definately did not evolve into the Taliban! The fought the muhijhadeen for control of afghan so to impose their extremist views.
To make this point clear, because everyone seems to get this wrong....
The U.S. did NOT fund the Taliban.
They funded the mujihadeen. When the Russians left, a breakaway sect called the Taliban started a civil war.
To this day, you get ex mujihadeen who join the afghan army and police specifically so they can kill Taliban.
Please, can people get this in their heads, it's a real annoyance of mine that people always get this wrong
To make this point clear, because everyone seems to get this wrong....
The U.S. did NOT fund the Taliban.
They funded the mujihadeen. When the Russians left, a breakaway sect called the Taliban started a civil war.
To this day, you get ex mujihadeen who join the afghan army and police specifically so they can kill Taliban.
Please, can people get this in their heads, it's a real annoyance of mine that people always get this wrong
thanks (Y)
My understanding was bin laden turned his back against U.S. to lead Taliban
Original post by Rovey
ISIS = Made in America let's get it straight guys. These terrorists are the foot soldiers of US-NATO and allies designed to destabilise sovereign countries and turn them into territories.
Tin foil hat alert.
ISIS is certainly a by product of the foreign policy of western countries including the USA. But your comment is just a stupid conspiracy theory. ISIS is certainly not "made in America" and they are not "foot soldiers of US-NATO".
Original post by RFowler
Tin foil hat alert.
ISIS is certainly a by product of the foreign policy of western countries including the USA. But your comment is just a stupid conspiracy theory. ISIS is certainly not "made in America" and they are not "foot soldiers of US-NATO".
ISIS is certainly a by product of the foreign policy of western countries including the USA. But your comment is just a stupid conspiracy theory. ISIS is certainly not "made in America" and they are not "foot soldiers of US-NATO".
They are, actually.
In 2011, NATO started a recruitment process for Mujahideen together with the Turkish high command. This is confirmed by Israeli press reports.
ISIS is not a manifestation of the failures of US policy. It's a manifestation of US foreign policy.
Original post by Rovey
They are, actually.
In 2011, NATO started a recruitment process for Mujahideen together with the Turkish high command. This is confirmed by Israeli press reports.
ISIS is not a manifestation of the failures of US policy. It's a manifestation of US foreign policy.
In 2011, NATO started a recruitment process for Mujahideen together with the Turkish high command. This is confirmed by Israeli press reports.
ISIS is not a manifestation of the failures of US policy. It's a manifestation of US foreign policy.
Really? Amazing then that the origins of ISIS go back to 2003 and that they fought the Americans throughout the Iraqi occupation.
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Original post by Gos123
Except the Taliban are religious extremists. The Kurbs aren't. They may be rebel fighters, but they won in Kobane and are invaluable for the West.
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Wow never knew that about the Taliban. I always wondered why most of the world never recognised them pre 9/11 (apart from Pakistan and Saudi .)
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Original post by Aj12
Really? Amazing then that the origins of ISIS go back to 2003 and that they fought the Americans throughout the Iraqi occupation.
France intervened in Mali against Al Qaeda while supporting Al Qaeda in Syria.
i don't see your point.
Original post by Rovey
France intervened in Mali against Al Qaeda while supporting Al Qaeda in Syria.
i don't see your point.
i don't see your point.
You claimed the us created and trained ISIS. How could they have done thst when ISIS existed long before the current conflict? Also I'd like a source showing france was supporting Al qaeda. Not a fore runner group or one that eventually joined ISIS but al qaeda itself.
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