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Reply 60
Original post by bittr n swt
stop bull****ting yourself now. You did not get 2 offers through UCAS, no one is stupid to decline 9k fees over 35k. Buckingham hasn't even been GMC credited yet. I know more medicine than you, you have no idea.
Funny thing you keep talkiing about quality yet by the time everyone graduates, you would have known the same thing as someone else who went to a UCAS uni.

Let's not leave it there, reply.


I'm staying out of this but I have to point out that if Buckingham does not get GMC reg, (highly likely it will), all students will get GMC reg from Leicester so win win. No problem there.

And the lady your speaking to is a nurse so I'm sure she already has a good understanding of the medical field.


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Original post by CHallows
I'm staying out of this but I have to point out that if Buckingham does not get GMC reg, (highly likely it will), all students will get GMC reg from Leicester so win win. No problem there.

And the lady your speaking to is a nurse so I'm sure she already has a good understanding of the medical field.


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medical field as a nurse but not as a doctor plus she has no idea when's she's talking about quality. All medical schools are GMC credited so it really doesn't matter where you go but why go to an expensive one over a 9k one still baffles me
Original post by bittr n swt
stop bull****ting yourself now. You did not get 2 offers through UCAS, no one is stupid to decline 9k fees over 35k. Buckingham hasn't even been GMC credited yet. I know more medicine than you, you have no idea.
Funny thing you keep talkiing about quality yet by the time everyone graduates, you would have known the same thing as someone else who went to a UCAS uni.

Let's not leave it there, reply.


You have some serious issues man!
Who are you to judge and criticise people what they choose to do with their life??? You are just one small person in this world who is money conscious and have some serious personal issues and zero clue. I'm feelig sorry for you being judgemental and poorly educated. Go get a life and stop being bitter!
Original post by Medic&score
You have some serious issues man!
Who are you to judge and criticise people what they choose to do with their life??? You are just one small person in this world who is money conscious and have some serious personal issues and zero clue. I'm feelig sorry for you being judgemental and poorly educated. Go get a life and stop being bitter!

what a pile of bs

it's called freedom of speech...if you've never heard of that saying before. Stop being so close minded and think your school is better than everyone else coz of 35k fees loooool
Original post by bittr n swt
what a pile of bs

it's called freedom of speech...if you've never heard of that saying before. Stop being so close minded and think your school is better than everyone else coz of 35k fees loooool


Freedom of speech lol I would rather hear some opinion from someone who is medical student or doctor rather than some sad immature boy... Also it would be nice to hear freedom of speech from someone who doesn't swear every message. Save your BS and other immature words to yourself!

Oh I never said my school is better than others I just personally prefer this one! I can have preference just like others students do. That's all.

Byeeee
Original post by Medic&score
Freedom of speech lol I would rather hear some opinion from someone who is medical student or doctor rather than some sad immature boy... Also it would be nice to hear freedom of speech from someone who doesn't swear every message. Save your BS and other immature words to yourself!

Oh I never said my school is better than others I just personally prefer this one! I can have preference just like others students do. That's all.

Byeeee


What makes a medical student opinion better than mine? They'll probably say the same thing....buckinham is a rip off uni and you can still go to a 9k fee uni.

What immature words have i said? I'm stating a fact:
buckingham isn't GMC credited
not better than any other medical schools
charges ridicolous fees and if anyone had common sense they would realise it's not worth it

i didn't swear in my previous message or this one.
Original post by CHallows
I'm staying out of this but I have to point out that if Buckingham does not get GMC reg, (highly likely it will), all students will get GMC reg from Leicester so win win. No problem there.

And the lady your speaking to is a nurse so I'm sure she already has a good understanding of the medical field.


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Hey have you heard back from Cambridge?
Original post by Medic&score
Thank you and Congrats to you too..
I'm Nursing grad work as Clinical Educator & Diabetes Specialist. What about you?

I'm UK student what about you?

I got to Kings and Norwich. Did you apply else where?

Im absolutely am impressed with staff and their way of believing in UoB and I know two guys with who I always talk over email who actually love studying there. So I made decision on a base how I felt about it.

I agree let's wait for more to join and then if you accept let's create one for our cohort! I'm excited!




I remember you ! i met you at the February open day! we did that accommodations tour !congrats on receiving an offer ! I attended the selection day earlier this week, fingers crossed ! :biggrin:
Original post by bittr n swt
What makes a medical student opinion better than mine? They'll probably say the same thing....buckinham is a rip off uni and you can still go to a 9k fee uni.

What immature words have i said? I'm stating a fact:
buckingham isn't GMC credited
not better than any other medical schools
charges ridicolous fees and if anyone had common sense they would realise it's not worth it

i didn't swear in my previous message or this one.




You do know that all degrees in public universities cost 35k, however for home students, they pay 9k and the government pays the remainder to the university to make it up to 35k. International students pay that price regardless of which university they choose to attend.

Buckingham university hasn't just pulled that sum out of thin air, they are a private university and that is how much the programme costs (as it does in every other medical school in the uk), they are Not funded by the government and therefore must charge home students the full price of the programme.

As for its GMC accreditation, it cannot be accredit till it has graduated its first cohort, and it has an insurance policy with the university of Leicester incase this doesn't happen, which Im sure it wont come to. Iv visited the medical school conversed with its first years and faculty and i can say that i have no doubt they will produce the best doctors of the future. They've spent over a decade working on their medical programme and the dean of the medical school himself is a legend in the medical world.
Original post by natasha_egh
I remember you ! i met you at the February open day! we did that accommodations tour !congrats on receiving an offer ! I attended the selection day earlier this week, fingers crossed ! :biggrin:



Hey yes I remember you too! It was great to meet you. It was fun day and good to see everything :-)

How was your selection day? PM if you want? Keeping fingers crossed for you :-)
Original post by natasha_egh
You do know that all degrees in public universities cost 35k, however for home students, they pay 9k and the government pays the remainder to the university to make it up to 35k. International students pay that price regardless of which university they choose to attend.

Buckingham university hasn't just pulled that sum out of thin air, they are a private university and that is how much the programme costs (as it does in every other medical school in the uk), they are Not funded by the government and therefore must charge home students the full price of the programme.

As for its GMC accreditation, it cannot be accredit till it has graduated its first cohort, and it has an insurance policy with the university of Leicester incase this doesn't happen, which Im sure it wont come to. Iv visited the medical school conversed with its first years and faculty and i can say that i have no doubt they will produce the best doctors of the future. They've spent over a decade working on their medical programme and the dean of the medical school himself is a legend in the medical world.


Well said Natasha! Boy didn't do his homework lol.. Anyhow it's personal choice where we want to study..
I agree about dean of school he is a legend!
Reply 71
Original post by Absorbaloff
Hey have you heard back from Cambridge?


Hey! Not yet :frown: it's been a very long wait!


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Reply 72
Original post by Medic&score
Well said Natasha! Boy didn't do his homework lol.. Anyhow it's personal choice where we want to study..
I agree about dean of school he is a legend!


Ditto: He is a legend!!!


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Original post by natasha_egh
You do know that all degrees in public universities cost 35k, however for home students, they pay 9k and the government pays the remainder to the university to make it up to 35k. International students pay that price regardless of which university they choose to attend.

Buckingham university hasn't just pulled that sum out of thin air, they are a private university and that is how much the programme costs (as it does in every other medical school in the uk), they are Not funded by the government and therefore must charge home students the full price of the programme.

As for its GMC accreditation, it cannot be accredit till it has graduated its first cohort, and it has an insurance policy with the university of Leicester incase this doesn't happen, which Im sure it wont come to. Iv visited the medical school conversed with its first years and faculty and i can say that i have no doubt they will produce the best doctors of the future. They've spent over a decade working on their medical programme and the dean of the medical school himself is a legend in the medical world.


If someone wants to pay extortionate amounts of money to do something they love, that's not a problem with me, but this is a university which has a course that costs £36,000 a year. It wont attract the best students, it will attract rich students who are most likely desperate to do medicine - which I understand, there are people out there who are willing to sell their organs to study medicine. I have banked at Bucks trust before and it's not the nicest trust to work or learn in. I considered doing my elective there as well as it's so much closer than my training trust, but decided against and went to my training trust which is further away but a wonderful place to learn.

Point I'm making is I believe higher education should be accessible to all, especially something like medicine. I also can't imagine them being able to sustain a high enough number of students. I assume this 36 grand doesn't include accommodation or living costs and even for international students public universities don't charge as much
Original post by CHallows
Hey! Not yet :frown: it's been a very long wait!


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I pulled out so hopefully it frees up the waiting list. Good luck for Cambridge
Original post by Absorbaloff
If someone wants to pay extortionate amounts of money to do something they love, that's not a problem with me, but this is a university which has a course that costs £36,000 a year. It wont attract the best students, it will attract rich students who are most likely desperate to do medicine - which I understand, there are people out there who are willing to sell their organs to study medicine. I have banked at Bucks trust before and it's not the nicest trust to work or learn in. I considered doing my elective there as well as it's so much closer than my training trust, but decided against and went to my training trust which is further away but a wonderful place to learn.

Point I'm making is I believe higher education should be accessible to all, especially something like medicine. I also can't imagine them being able to sustain a high enough number of students. I assume this 36 grand doesn't include accommodation or living costs and even for international students public universities don't charge as much



Isn't everyone who pursues to study medicine desperate to get in ? the major point that seems to be missed here is the difference between public and private schools. ! no one is trying to rip anyone off, Buckingham university is a registered charity, it gets its money from students and donations, no where else. Yes education should be accessible to all however here where the difference between public and private universities comes to mind.

Have you heard about the University of central lancashire? they are public university who have a medical school that is not funded by the government so they do not accept home students the course is solely for international students who pay the sum of 35k. point being, schools cannot rip people off because the law forbids it.

As for the type of people it may attract for applicants. it sounds as you are insinuating that bratty little rich kids are running at the chance to apply because they think that due to their wealth they are at an advantage. I can easily tell you that you are in fact wrong.

Buckingham has a very intense selective process used to identify students who posses the desired qualities that is needed to be a successful doctor, a process which follows after you are deemed to be academically suitable. choosing students based on their wealth will not benefit the university when it is time for the GMC to evaluate the medical school and its students for the program to be accredited, an aspect, im positive the university is well aware of.
Original post by natasha_egh
Isn't everyone who pursues to study medicine desperate to get in ? the major point that seems to be missed here is the difference between public and private schools. ! no one is trying to rip anyone off, Buckingham university is a registered charity, it gets its money from students and donations, no where else. Yes education should be accessible to all however here where the difference between public and private universities comes to mind.

Have you heard about the University of central lancashire? they are public university who have a medical school that is not funded by the government so they do not accept home students the course is solely for international students who pay the sum of 35k. point being, schools cannot rip people off because the law forbids it.

As for the type of people it may attract for applicants. it sounds as you are insinuating that bratty little rich kids are running at the chance to apply because they think that due to their wealth they are at an advantage. I can easily tell you that you are in fact wrong.

Buckingham has a very intense selective process used to identify students who posses the desired qualities that is needed to be a successful doctor, a process which follows after you are deemed to be academically suitable. choosing students based on their wealth will not benefit the university when it is time for the GMC to evaluate the medical school and its students for the program to be accredited, an aspect, im positive the university is well aware of.


I think the point that they're making is that the students are self-selecting - you're not going apply unless your family are rich enough to pay £36,000 or you have access to that kind of money from some other means. Being serious that's more than the average yearly salary in the UK - it's an absolutely massive cost. I would estimate that unless you have a household income of more than £100,000/year it would be difficult to afford, and so therefore this course is available to only a tiny percentage of the home student population. Most people are simply too poor to attend, and what's unfair is it means that rich kids have more places at medical school open to them than poor ones so have more chance at getting in, when really the application process to a course as desired as medicine should not have anything to do with the wealth behind the applicant.
Original post by violin101
I think the point that they're making is that the students are self-selecting - you're not going apply unless your family are rich enough to pay £36,000 or you have access to that kind of money from some other means. Being serious that's more than the average yearly salary in the UK - it's an absolutely massive cost. I would estimate that unless you have a household income of more than £100,000/year it would be difficult to afford, and so therefore this course is available to only a tiny percentage of the home student population. Most people are simply too poor to attend, and what's unfair is it means that rich kids have more places at medical school open to them than poor ones so have more chance at getting in, when really the application process to a course as desired as medicine should not have anything to do with the wealth behind the applicant.




I understand that, it caters to people who can afford a yearly sum of 35k and international students. however, people aren't forced to apply and it is the only private medical school in the country. The fact remains that there are 32 public medical schools that can be applied to, schools which are affordable and funding is available to support students whom are unable to pay the fees.

The united states charges around 40k per annum for any course and about 60k for the more prestigious schools. I have a friend in the states who is a doctor who is also almost half a million dollars in dept from his education so instead of complaining about one school that costs more, i think people need to keep in mind the privilege of an affordable education.

that being said, i do see where you are coming from, wealthier folk get 5 choices for their medical school applications, however others get 4. But what can you do ? change the law to abolish private institutions from functioning because some people are at a disadvantage ? is this equality ? or purely the definition of communism ?
Isn't everyone who pursues to study medicine desperate to get in ? the major point that seems to be missed here is the difference between public and private schools. ! no one is trying to rip anyone off, Buckingham university is a registered charity, it gets its money from students and donations, no where else. Yes education should be accessible to all however here where the difference between public and private universities comes to mind.

Have you heard about the University of central lancashire? they are public university who have a medical school that is not funded by the government so they do not accept home students the course is solely for international students who pay the sum of 35k. point being, schools cannot rip people off because the law forbids it.

But it is technically a rip off. If the structure is so similar to Leicester, and if GMC accreditation fails and you get accreditation for Leics, why not just go to Leicester. It's a much more established uni in a lovely area and a great trust. You are paying more money to get exactly the same degree at any other publicly funded university, and some of if not most of these have a higher quality of education because they've been teaching medicine for a very long time. There is only a difference between public and private if a private education can provide you with a higher quality degree, which in this case it can not. I am also aware of UCLAN, and I'm fairly sure it works under the same premise of Bucks and takes students from anywhere as long as they have the money.

As for the type of people it may attract for applicants. it sounds as you are insinuating that bratty little rich kids are running at the chance to apply because they think that due to their wealth they are at an advantage. I can easily tell you that you are in fact wrong.

You can't tell me I'm wrong. You won't find any working class students at this medical school, and while I'm sure there will be intelligent people here, they will have a certain amount of wealth and will be aware that it is because they have wealth attending this institution was easier.

Buckingham has a very intense selective process used to identify students who posses the desired qualities that is needed to be a successful doctor, a process which follows after you are deemed to be academically suitable. choosing students based on their wealth will not benefit the university when it is time for the GMC to evaluate the medical school and its students for the program to be accredited, an aspect, im positive the university is well aware of.

I do agree it has a high entry requirement, but it also has a much smaller pool of students to choose from. I can guarantee you most students who applied here got a place, I imagine the only reason they didn't get a place would be because they didn't get the grades.
Reply 79
Original post by Absorbaloff
Isn't everyone who pursues to study medicine desperate to get in ? the major point that seems to be missed here is the difference between public and private schools. ! no one is trying to rip anyone off, Buckingham university is a registered charity, it gets its money from students and donations, no where else. Yes education should be accessible to all however here where the difference between public and private universities comes to mind.

Have you heard about the University of central lancashire? they are public university who have a medical school that is not funded by the government so they do not accept home students the course is solely for international students who pay the sum of 35k. point being, schools cannot rip people off because the law forbids it.

But it is technically a rip off. If the structure is so similar to Leicester, and if GMC accreditation fails and you get accreditation for Leics, why not just go to Leicester. It's a much more established uni in a lovely area and a great trust. You are paying more money to get exactly the same degree at any other publicly funded university, and some of if not most of these have a higher quality of education because they've been teaching medicine for a very long time. There is only a difference between public and private if a private education can provide you with a higher quality degree, which in this case it can not. I am also aware of UCLAN, and I'm fairly sure it works under the same premise of Bucks and takes students from anywhere as long as they have the money.

As for the type of people it may attract for applicants. it sounds as you are insinuating that bratty little rich kids are running at the chance to apply because they think that due to their wealth they are at an advantage. I can easily tell you that you are in fact wrong.

You can't tell me I'm wrong. You won't find any working class students at this medical school, and while I'm sure there will be intelligent people here, they will have a certain amount of wealth and will be aware that it is because they have wealth attending this institution was easier.

Buckingham has a very intense selective process used to identify students who posses the desired qualities that is needed to be a successful doctor, a process which follows after you are deemed to be academically suitable. choosing students based on their wealth will not benefit the university when it is time for the GMC to evaluate the medical school and its students for the program to be accredited, an aspect, im positive the university is well aware of.

I do agree it has a high entry requirement, but it also has a much smaller pool of students to choose from. I can guarantee you most students who applied here got a place, I imagine the only reason they didn't get a place would be because they didn't get the grades.


Many of us have offers from other unis but may firm buckingham over them... We all have our own personal reasons for why we may firm Buckingham over them. I don't think it's fair that you assume people who go to buckingham only go there because they can't get in elsewhere. In fact that assumption is clearly entirely wrong.

Regardless I made this discussion for applicants who had applied to study medicine at buckingham for 2016 entry. I don't want it to become into a debating forum.


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