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Original post by poorform
STEM/Medicine is respected. Everything else is mickey mouse.


You are probably missing Disneyland way too much
Original post by Wade-
I'd add geography to the list of Mickey Mouse degrees


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Lol get lost where else do you think all the environmental consultants, GIS users, EQI people, and physical scientists come from.
Original post by arfah
That's a nice but peculiar combo! I love History. I'm doing it at A2 now. Are you enjoying your course then? :biggrin:


Haha yeah :smile: history is great! What bit of history are you looking at for A2? Very much so :h:

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As a linguist, I'm dreading to think what everyone thinks haha.
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Original post by Changing Skies
Haha yeah :smile: history is great! What bit of history are you looking at for A2? Very much so :h:

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Well I did the Holocaust for my coursework (causes of it) and the exam is called 'The making of modern Britain 1951-2007' So, it's very modern:tongue: It's a good course, if you're interested in Politics in particular, which I am.
Original post by soanonymous
I'm just really curious...

Is there like a list of the degrees that people most commonly feel are 'mickey mouse degrees'?
What would you say is a 'mickey mouse degree'?
Would you ever do a 'mickey mouse degree'?
Isn't any degree better than no degree? Seeing as I've read somewhere that many employers don't really look at the degree but just the classification achieved..?


Not my personal opinion but I have heard photography, media, art mentioned. I don't agree that you should just do any degree, I refused to go until I got into the course I wanted which took three attempts but I finally start in September. I think degrees are just a piece of paper if they don't mean anything to you.
Original post by Strawberry68
Lol get lost where else do you think all the environmental consultants, GIS users, EQI people, and physical scientists come from.




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Physical scientists usually come from physics as well as Geography.But geography is definately not a mickey mouse subject IMO.I loved geography when I was younger.
Original post by Kadak
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Physical scientists usually come from physics as well as Geography.But geography is definately not a mickey mouse subject IMO.I loved geography when I was younger.


I thought physical sciences encompassed chemistry and astronomy too?!
Original post by Smack
This is just pure nonsense.

STEM graduates go into a wide variety of careers upon graduation. Not only can they go into the field of their study, they can also go into a range of other careers that are open to holders of any degree, as well as more general technical fields that request specifically a numerical degree.

Onto the jobs themselves, I wouldn't say that my STEM job is dull. Of course, it's all subjective - I would find something like the civil service rather boring. I wouldn't mind education - and, contrary to your post, lots of those jobs do go to STEM graduates, especially so given that there seems to be a real shortage of qualified STEM teachers.


Well if that's your opinion, that's fine.

I'm just saying there's an extremely limiting aspect to STEM subjects, it's part of their nature. When you specialise, you specialise. General degrees give you a broader range of skills and makes you much adaptable in the job market

It's important to remember I am referring to the AVERAGE 15 year old, not people such as yourself for example. If you get what I mean. The government is trying to streamline everyone into a subject that's not suitable for most people and their aspirations.
Original post by Princepieman
Severe lack of evidence...

The most common degree for top managers in the world's fortune 500 companies is engineering. That is a fact, whereas you literally pulled some speculative crap out of nowhere.

They aren't limiting in any sense of the word..

Maths, Physics, Engineering and Comp Sci grads regularly head into the investment banking and consulting industries - hell there are even segments of the legal profession that require STEM degrees. Frankly, I think your argument is baseless and just a way to slight STEM - when you know full well there wouldn't be any advancement in our lives as humans without it.

Honestly, how is the argument that people drop out therefore it isn't good even an argument?

I love the humanities but STEM degrees give people the most options - directly related or not.



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I highly doubt that a STEM degree would be broader ranged than a non-STEM degree, it makes no sense given that they're specialised. There is an interchange between STEM subjects now and then, but a STEM subject doesn't integrate as well as a general academic subject.

I'm not expressing a dislike to STEM, far from it, but I do think there's this conception it's the dream career, when frankly it has a lot of limiting consequences that need to be carefully thought through, something which most teenagers aren't ready for.
Original post by Damien_Dalgaard
I see what you are saying, but can I ask how you determining that French is harder than further maths. All people in my further maths set I think only 2 out of the 9 do languages.

I am of the opinion that if you are the best out of the test takers you are guaranteed an A* permitting no external factors affecting said person at time of the exams.

A perfect combination would be triple science, maths, further maths, and a language :moon:


I believe it was what OFQUAL considered to be the most difficult for a British student. For an international student, Further Maths has always been deemed the hardest, but when you look at languages for British students it gets a bit more complicated.

What happens is that you get native speakers take the exams alongside British students to prove their native fluency for work/uni, this causes a massive hike on the already high UMS boundaries. Thus you end up with very few non-native language students getting the top few grades, even though the exam was ironically made for them.

In other words, it's a bit like taking an A2 Maths exam but you're taking it alongside 3rd University-level maths students. They mess around with the UMS for grades A*-C.

That's why university offers for languages at most RG unis want a B grade in a language, not an A. Also due to the lack of demand because it seems deemed too hard, causing a vicious cycle.
STEM master race. End thread.
People forget that even STEM can be flooded. If everyone did STEM, there'd be no jobs because the market would be saturated. Even some STEM degrees might not always get you a job right off these days. A lot of it is just as much selling yourself, who you know as what you know.
Original post by AsandaLFC
Anything that doesnt involve;

Maths

Is a mickey mouse degree

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Like... Law?
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Original post by O.Ozz
And thats why People go to uni. ITS A THREE YEAR HOLIDAY AWAY FROM FAMILY.

THATS THE MAIN REASON WHY I WILL BE GOING TO UNI. There's simply nothing wrong with this


I'm saying there is although a lot of people would argue that is the wrong reason to go to uni. It still doesn't mean you're doing a proper degree


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Original post by Wade-
I'd add geography to the list of Mickey Mouse degrees


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Geography is definitely not a Mickey Mouse degree. It's highly regarded as a great subject to study in uni and employers would search for ppl with a geo degree since its a subject which combines a few other subjects like econ, bio, politics etc. And can be easily adapted to suit the specific job Career u r focusing on.


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Original post by Damien_Dalgaard
anything that is basically not STEM./thread


so degrees like languages, law and economics you think are useless? The world doesn't revolve around STEM you know.
Original post by TheTechN1304
so degrees like languages, law and economics you think are useless? The world doesn't revolve around STEM you know.

Languages = pointless
Law = Pointless unless Oxbridge
Economics = Pointless unless Oxbridge
Original post by Iggy Azalea
I'm just saying there's an extremely limiting aspect to STEM subjects, it's part of their nature. When you specialise, you specialise. General degrees give you a broader range of skills and makes you much adaptable in the job market


Are you saying like if people do chemistry, they are specialising in chemistry? Surely if you do history, you're specialising in history?

What skills do you gain on a 'general degree' that you don't gain on a STEM degree?
Everything is useful. Society needs people with all different areas of expertise to thrive.

My Sister did Journalism. My Dad's studying Maths with the Open University, and I'm studying History...so....yeah, it's an outlook which is shaped by that.

I mean sure, my Physics teacher always used to jokingly mock Geography students by suggesting that it was "coloring" but still, it's a useful degree to have.

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