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17 + Receding hairline, WHY ME?

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Reply 40
Original post by vela1
Fair do's but finasteride can mess up your downstairs. Would much rather be bald than have a non-functioning willy.


Yeah, most definitely. I think everyone should know that there's a chance of this happening. It's not as common as people make it to be (and most of those I've talked to either didn't have any problems at all or had some libido issues in the first few months).
Reply 41
Original post by onderk
Not proven, this is just a theory.

Worked with me and many others, just think about, if everyone stopped the porn industry would stop making money, capitalism is rife.
Also my hair's growing back nicely.
Original post by Blutooth
I think sexual dysfunction and hormonal imbalances that could arise from taking finasteride would be much worse than a balding head.


Not really. If you have no hair, you might as well be impotent anyway lol. I'm lucky I still have it good.
I find a widows peak v sexy - is it like that??
Have you considered a hair transplant?
this guy does alright. Just start lifting bruh

Original post by Anonymous
Just turned 17, but I've had a receding hairline for a few months.

My hair's not too thin, but the hairline is an M shape and my forehead is becoming massive to the point people have commented on it.

It's so ****ing depressing.

I have average looks, I'm not muscular; I'm nothing special. So why the **** me? If I lose my hair I'm just going to end up ugly as **** in the years I'm supposed to be at my best.

It's absolutely, horrendously depressing. I think about it in school and it gets me really self-conscious to the point I don't even style my hair anymore to hide it. It's affecting my grades and my mood and I hate it.


Good news.

I had my hair cut short at 17 (previously had a bit of a fringe so never noticed) and found that i was receding, and over the next few years it receded pretty quick. Despite going bald, 18-21 was my prime with women because i was confident, stylish, tall and thin.

Women won't care much about the hair, just get past it. Your main focus should be your body (getting fat caused my drought) and making sure you have the correct attitude (i.e. think they should be lucky to have you).
Original post by Anonymous
Just turned 17, but I've had a receding hairline for a few months.

My hair's not too thin, but the hairline is an M shape and my forehead is becoming massive to the point people have commented on it.

It's so ****ing depressing.

I have average looks, I'm not muscular; I'm nothing special. So why the **** me? If I lose my hair I'm just going to end up ugly as **** in the years I'm supposed to be at my best.

It's absolutely, horrendously depressing. I think about it in school and it gets me really self-conscious to the point I don't even style my hair anymore to hide it. It's affecting my grades and my mood and I hate it.


hello

What is your current diet ?

Would you take supplements ?

Are you able to change your diet ?

When did this begin ?

How far along is the hair loss ?

do you have problems with body temperature ?
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Original post by vela1
As someone who is currently losing his hair, you just have to accept it. Purely genetic as my great grandfather has passed down the gene to each generation so we've all lost hair at an early age. Sure, at first I was feeling down but I thought f**k it and got me a buzz cut.

Nothing worse then trying to cover up hair loss with a comb over or summa', the ladies agree on this too. Also, forget the drugs and home remedies. They don't work.


it's not genetic

it's hormonal
it's dietary
one or 2 supplements can help
DHT might cause hair loss in some, not all, people

you only inherit hair colour and texture
Original post by wsxcde
Hormone balance is genetic though also not just environmental.


I just think it depends on the person.

You can alter your hormones with diet, exercise etc supplements

hair loss is caused by

serotonin
estrogen
prostaglandins
prolactin

They are caused by PUFA excess.

this forum is interesting

http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/f1-natural-hair-regrowth
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Original post by wsxcde
Well you seem quite interested in the subject whilst I've hardly read about it, but are you sure you're listing the right hormones there? I find it hard to imagine how estrogen causes hair loss or see obvious examples in every day life (such as women not balding over men) along with the fact I thought it was commonly said testosterone causes hair loss. I wouldnt recommend people to try to lower/alter their serotonin either, that is what a lot of anti-depressants try to give you more of because low serotonin is often the cause of depression. Not read about the other two in the slightest though.


There's a very interesting free book

called Hair Like a Fox, inspired by the work of Ray Peat

read about it, it's interesting
OP, do you have Irish ancestry? It's quite common for males who do to have this type of balding. I have it to a certain extent but my hair is long enough to cover it over for the most part. A friend of mine has it very prominently and he doesn't have much trouble attracting women (and no, before you ask - he isn't ripped nor does he have natural good looks).

Stop worrying about it so much and either grow your hair out or shave it if you're really concerned people are noticing.
Reply 52
Original post by democracyforum
it's not geneticit's hormonalit's dietary one or 2 supplements can helpDHT might cause hair loss in some, not all, peopleyou only inherit hair colour and texture


My GP said it was down to genes, I trust his judgement over yours.
Original post by *Stefan*
2. Minoxidil (5% usually, but there are some brands ranging from 2% to over 15% -which is too powerful!-). Basically increases blood flow, making the regeneration cycle of the follicles faster. It's external (either foam or topical solution), can have some side-effects (though rarer; headache, rush, heart implications etc) and success has been around 53%.


Tbh my mates on this, and when my hair loss sped up (since slowed down again) I researched this a lot.

In the majority of cases, it only works for a year or two before the normal hair loss rate resumes.

*However* as soon as you stop using it, in the majority of cases it actually can speed up hair loss, so if you you use Minoxidil you'll only see a benefit for a year or two. But even if it doesn't work you have to use it for life if you don't want your hairloss to be sped up.

Would much rather recommend your first option. And if I remember correctly it doesn't actually cause infertility per se, it actually has a permanent side effect that 1% of male takers will be unable to have an erection. And thats for life! Knowing my luck I would be one of those 1% if I took it :lol:
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Reply 54
Original post by DanB1991
Tbh my mates on this, and when my hair loss sped up (since slowed down again) I researched this a lot.

In the majority of cases, it only works for a year or two before the normal hair loss rate resumes.

*However* as soon as you stop using it, in the majority of cases it actually can speed up hair loss, so if you you use Minoxidil you'll only see a benefit for a year or two. But even if it doesn't work you have to use it for life if you don't want your hairloss to be sped up.

Would much rather recommend your first option. And if I remember correctly it doesn't actually cause infertility per se, it actually has a permanent side effect that 1% of male takers will be unable to have an erection. And thats for life! Knowing my luck I would be one of those 1% if I took it :lol:


Taking Minoxidil may dramatically increase shedding in the first few weeks-month, but that's weak hair that was destined to fall either way.

I've never heard of anyone saying that it stops working after a year -in fact, I know of one person who has been using it for three years, and has had consistently good results.

Like finasteride, minoxidil is a treatment, not a cure. It works for as long as you take it (like most drugs). Once you stop, your hair will revert back to their pre-finasteride/minoxidil levels.

I may start finasteride once I've used minoxidil a bit longer. It's definitely the best option out there.
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Original post by *Stefan*
Taking Minoxidil may dramatically increase shedding in the first few weeks-month, but that's weak hair that was destined to fall either way.

I've never heard of anyone saying that it stops working after a year -in fact, I know of one person who has been using it for three years, and has had consistently good results.

Like finasteride, minoxidil is a treatment, not a cure. It works for as long as you take it (like most drugs). Once you stop, your hair will revert back to their pre-finasteride/minoxidil levels.

I may start finasteride once I've used minoxidil a bit longer. It's definitely the best option out there.


You're talking about the initial shedding.

Minoxidil's main use is for young men who haven't been experiencing hair loss for long. It slows down hairloss for 1-3 years, then basically stops making a noticable difference, it then takes another year or two for you to loose the extra hair you've gained, meaning after roughly 5 years you'll be back where you started.

No talking specifically about the process of stopping usage of minoxidil, it does increase hairloss, negating any benefit. If you want to generally keep the hair you've gained you have to stick on it (but keep in mind it only works for 1-3 years depending on the individual).

This is the only study I'm aware of regarding Minoxidil


Note after week 96 when treatment was stopped hair loss was actually sped up, however after a period of 3-8 months it returned to normal, so an individual would effectively would no be worse nor better than if they had not started the treatment.

By far Propecia is better, it works as long as you take it. The properly marketed and packaged minoxidil, such as rogain/regain will actually state after a year Minoxidil will stop having any extra effect, though the widley agreed limit is closer to 2-3 years.
Reply 56
Original post by DanB1991
You're talking about the initial shedding.

Minoxidil's main use is for young men who haven't been experiencing hair loss for long. It slows down hairloss for 1-3 years, then basically stops making a noticable difference, it then takes another year or two for you to loose the extra hair you've gained, meaning after roughly 5 years you'll be back where you started.

No talking specifically about the process of stopping usage of minoxidil, it does increase hairloss, negating any benefit. If you want to generally keep the hair you've gained you have to stick on it (but keep in mind it only works for 1-3 years depending on the individual).

This is the only study I'm aware of regarding Minoxidil


Note after week 96 when treatment was stopped hair loss was actually sped up, however after a period of 3-8 months it returned to normal, so an individual would effectively would no be worse nor better than if they had not started the treatment.

By far Propecia is better, it works as long as you take it. The properly marketed and packaged minoxidil, such as rogain/regain will actually state after a year Minoxidil will stop having any extra effect, though the widley agreed limit is closer to 2-3 years.


Ah, you've misunderstood this actually. After one or two years of using minoxidil, you won't lose the hair you gained, but the hair GROWTH stops, permanently. If you stop using it at that time, both growth and the hair that had grown will be lost.

The reason is that, follicles that have been bombarded with minoxidil for a year or so, yet do not grow hair back, are dead, and cannot be recovered (the body does destroy what it does not need). The other follicles that were recruited by minox will keep the hair that has grown, unless you stop the treatment.

EDIT: You can use both finasteride and minoxidil, but if you intend to start with any hair treatment, it should always be minoxidil first. At least for 6 month. You can then move on to finasteride (without discontinuing minoxidil of course), to further boost growth and quality of hairs.

Also, as years go by and your genetic hair loss continues, minoxidil is not able to stop that hair from falling. It will stimulate growth, but it's not something you can use to prevent further hair loss after a while. That's only up to finasteride (which is not nearly as certain either).
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Don't listen to these idiots.

You have Widow's Peak, which doesn't necessarily mean you're balding. A friend of mine has one, and he definitely isn't. However it does mean you'll lose your hair later on in life.
I'm losing my hair and I'm only 20. I'm not too bothered about it because my head shape suits the shaved look, but I know exactly where you're coming from.

Go for a buzz cut if you're feeling down, it'll boost your confidence and will tell other people you don't care.
Original post by vela1
My GP said it was down to genes, I trust his judgement over yours.


what do they know about hair loss ?

why even bother stopping it if it is genetic ?
Original post by Anonymous
Just turned 17, but I've had a receding hairline for a few months.

My hair's not too thin, but the hairline is an M shape and my forehead is becoming massive to the point people have commented on it.

It's so ****ing depressing.

I have average looks, I'm not muscular; I'm nothing special. So why the **** me? If I lose my hair I'm just going to end up ugly as **** in the years I'm supposed to be at my best.

It's absolutely, horrendously depressing. I think about it in school and it gets me really self-conscious to the point I don't even style my hair anymore to hide it. It's affecting my grades and my mood and I hate it.


i think there is some medication for small patches of baldness but i am guessing you would not want to go down that route because every medication has its own side effects.

Maybe you should go to a hair specialist?

sorry to hear you are experiencing this. :redface:

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