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God & the Mountain

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    This is the traditional religious flaw:

    Given that God is omnipotent, then can he make a mountain so big and strong that he can't move it. If he can, then there is something he can't do (move the mountain) and therefore he is not omnipotent. If he can't then again there is something he can't do.

    Can you religious folk win on this one?
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    (Original post by samdavyson)
    This is the traditional religious flaw:

    Given that God is omnipotent, then can he make a mountain so big and strong that he can't move it. If he can, then there is something he can't do (move the mountain) and therefore he is not omnipotent. If he can't then again there is something he can't do.

    Can you religious folk win on this one?
    We have had these arguments before, the seriously religious simply yell at you for having such little faith to ask this question, everyone else makes jokes at them, we laugh.
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    i have another one
    god says that we have a choice
    but wot is deja-vous all about then?
    that means that we must have a set path, wouldnt we?
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    Deja vu could simply be a coincidence.
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    i get it all the time
    and it honestly feels as if i had done it before
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    But why would our set path be to do the same things over and over?
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    i really dont know, lol

    a bit like the matrix really isnt it?!? lol
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    (Original post by Cellardore)
    i get it all the time
    and it honestly feels as if i had done it before
    I get a weird kind of Deja vu. I get it once, but then forget about it, then get the same one a few days later. At that point I remember the previous one, but get the sensation way before the memory. The situations are always different, but there is one similarity that brings the feeling back.
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    i know, its really wierd
    another thing i get is a dream, where i thought i have woken up and would be tellin someone about the dream i just had and realising that i'm in another dream!
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    (Original post by samdavyson)
    This is the traditional religious flaw:

    Given that God is omnipotent, then can he make a mountain so big and strong that he can't move it. If he can, then there is something he can't do (move the mountain) and therefore he is not omnipotent. If he can't then again there is something he can't do.

    Can you religious folk win on this one?
    Mountains move on their own accord over large epochs of time.
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    (Original post by Joey_Johns)
    Mountains move on their own accord over large epochs of time.
    That still doesn't allow God to win does it?
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    (Original post by piginapoke)
    Such paradoxes are a flaw of language not religion.
    Er, that shouldn't change the question.

    "Could God create an object he can't move?"

    This is pure religion, a question about the nature of god.
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    (Original post by samdavyson)
    That still doesn't allow God to win does it?
    Why not? Could god not invent automation creating less work for himself?
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    (Original post by Joey_Johns)
    Why not? Could god not invent automation creating less work for himself?
    Could god create a god? Or himself even? Could god exist? Answer to all of these in two letters please.
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    (Original post by pal_sch)
    Could god create a god? Or himself even? Could god exist? Answer to all of these in two letters please.
    God doesn't exist apart from in the human mind which is good enough for me.
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    (Original post by samdavyson)
    This is the traditional religious flaw:

    Given that God is omnipotent, then can he make a mountain so big and strong that he can't move it. If he can, then there is something he can't do (move the mountain) and therefore he is not omnipotent. If he can't then again there is something he can't do.

    Can you religious folk win on this one?
    but by definition, god will be all powerful, so no matter how big he mountain is, he will be able to move it, as his power will be infinite.
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    (Original post by samdavyson)
    This is the traditional religious flaw:

    Given that God is omnipotent, then can he make a mountain so big and strong that he can't move it. If he can, then there is something he can't do (move the mountain) and therefore he is not omnipotent. If he can't then again there is something he can't do.

    Can you religious folk win on this one?
    An irreligious answer we've had elsewhere: god can do to both. God is omnipotent- not logical.
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