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Original post by anonwinner
This is my goal, but apparently it's much easier to go into IB after graduating from UCL (or Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, Warwick) than from Bristol or other RG unis.


yes, that's true, although if you're at a semi-target and apply yourself it's possible.

i'm not at a target and hold a summer analyst offer for a bb ib, hence achievable
I know Economics seems like a really interesting degree and it truly is. But be realistic in terms of expectations when it comes to job prospects. Nobody can convince me that an Economics degree offers more opportunities than Engineering... You will end up in finance/sales/banking/other generic corporate jobs, where a degree in Actuarial Science/Accounting/Finance would be far more competitive. The courses I listed are far more practically oriented whereas Economics tends to be more philosophical - do not expect to practice the majority of things you study, especially the more interesting concepts.

You can not go wrong with Engineering. Society will always be in need of scientists and engineers. Chances are you will be paid more and do something, which actually benefits the rest of society.
Original post by Broscientist
I know Economics seems like a really interesting degree and it truly is. But be realistic in terms of expectations when it comes to job prospects. Nobody can convince me that an Economics degree offers more opportunities than Engineering... You will end up in finance/sales/banking/other generic corporate jobs, where a degree in Actuarial Science/Accounting/Finance would be far more competitive. The courses I listed are far more practically oriented whereas Economics tends to be more philosophical - do not expect to practice the majority of things you study, especially the more interesting concepts.

You can not go wrong with Engineering. Society will always be in need of scientists and engineers. Chances are you will be paid more and do something, which actually benefits the rest of society.


No need to push a man into something he's not 100% interested in..

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Original post by anonwinner
Hey guys, basically I have an offer for an Economics course at a decent uni (Russel group, not Oxbridge or London) but I'm a bit concerned about the job prospects of an Economics degree.

I've been thinking about reapplying next year to an Engineering degree instead (probably Mechanical Engineering) because the job prospects are so much better, and also the grade requirements seem to be lower than economics so it would be possible for me to go to a better university.

However, I'm only doing Maths A Level at the moment, not Physics. I would have to do Physics in the gap year while reapplying.

I really enjoy Economics, but I feel like in the future I will regret not choosing Engineering.

Any opinions or advice?



You could opt for a foundation year in clearing?
Original post by Princepieman
No need to push a man into something he's not 100% interested in..

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My bad, just saw one of OP's posts, stating his goal is to go into IB.
Original post by Broscientist
I know Economics seems like a really interesting degree and it truly is. But be realistic in terms of expectations when it comes to job prospects. Nobody can convince me that an Economics degree offers more opportunities than Engineering... You will end up in finance/sales/banking/other generic corporate jobs, where a degree in Actuarial Science/Accounting/Finance would be far more competitive. The courses I listed are far more practically oriented whereas Economics tends to be more philosophical - do not expect to practice the majority of things you study, especially the more interesting concepts.

You can not go wrong with Engineering. Society will always be in need of scientists and engineers. Chances are you will be paid more and do something, which actually benefits the rest of society.


I always thought an Economics degree was better than Accounting and Finance degrees?

Do you think its worth me taking a gap year to reapply to Engineering degrees?
Lol Bristol Econ is not bad, its definitely possible to get any job even IB from Bristol.
Original post by Incubator
You could opt for a foundation year in clearing?


Isn't clearing generally for lower-tier universities/degrees?
Original post by Okorange
Lol Bristol Econ is not bad, its definitely possible to get any job even IB from Bristol.


I'm not saying it's bad but it's just that I see so many posts on TSR about how the only way to get into IB or similar high paying jobs is through Oxbridge or London
Original post by anonwinner
Isn't clearing generally for lower-tier universities/degrees?



Nope. As far as I know, Manchester offer a great Engineering foundation year. So do Nottingham. I'm pretty sure you can go through clearing for them.
Original post by anonwinner
I always thought an Economics degree was better than Accounting and Finance degrees?

Do you think its worth me taking a gap year to reapply to Engineering degrees?
You already said that IB is your goal. Only go for a degree in Engineering if you find it interesting and is definitely something you want to do.

It sounds to me that you do not really know what you want to do? Is IB something that interests you and do you definitely want to work in that sector? Then apply the same question to Engineering.
Original post by anonwinner
I'm not saying it's bad but it's just that I see so many posts on TSR about how the only way to get into IB or similar high paying jobs is through Oxbridge or London


That's not true, I have multiple friends with confirmed jobs in IB and they are at St Andrews.

A company is not going to limit its talent pool by only taking students from some of the best students at the best universities.
Original post by Broscientist
You already said that IB is your goal. Only go for a degree in Engineering if you find it interesting and is definitely something you want to do.

It sounds to me that you do not really know what you want to do? Is IB something that interests you and do you definitely want to work in that sector? Then apply the same question to Engineering.


I don't really know what I want to do, that's the point of this thread.

I want to get a good paying job after university, whether that be IB or something else. So I'm trying to decide whether to pursue Economics at Bristol or try for an Engineering degree next year perhaps at somewhere like UCL. I am interested in both economics and engineering.
Original post by Okorange
That's not true, I have multiple friends with confirmed jobs in IB and they are at St Andrews.

A company is not going to limit its talent pool by only taking students from some of the best students at the best universities.


I'm talking about averages. For example, in theory, do you think someone would be more likely to get a job in IB with an Economics degree from Bristol or a Mechanical Engineering with Business Finance degree from UCL (all other factors being equal).
Original post by anonwinner
I'm talking about averages. For example, in theory, do you think someone would be more likely to get a job in IB with an Economics degree from Bristol or a Mechanical Engineering with Business Finance degree from UCL (all other factors being equal).


Probably slight edge to UCL mainly because UCL is in London making it easier for you to network. However, I don't think its worth a year of your life to do so.

Since Engineering is not even UCL's strength, I would probably regard an Econ degree from Bristol as more prestigious than a Mech Eng with Business Finance degree from UCL. Bristol is an upper RG uni, when I first read the article, I was thinking you were going to do Econ at Sheffield or Liverpool, not Bristol.

What we are talking about is literally a difference that isn't there. Certainly not worth a year of your life, a year of salary etc.
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Original post by anonwinner
I don't really know what I want to do, that's the point of this thread.

I want to get a good paying job after university, whether that be IB or something else. So I'm trying to decide whether to pursue Economics at Bristol or try for an Engineering degree next year perhaps at somewhere like UCL. I am interested in both economics and engineering.


You mentioned you want to go into IB and already have an offer for economics from a good university. I would say you go with that, considering the fact that you feel pretty much the same way about both economics and engineering.

Go for a gap year only if your mind is 100% set on doing Engineering. Economics and Engineering could not get any more different as subjects. Engineering is a lot more demanding - if you are not passionate about it you might end up hating it and not getting anywhere.
Original post by Okorange
Probably slight edge to UCL mainly because UCL is in London making it easier for you to network. However, I don't think its worth a year of your life to do so.

Since Engineering is not even UCL's strength, I would probably regard an Econ degree from Bristol as more prestigious than a Mech Eng with Business Finance degree from UCL. Bristol is an upper RG uni, when I first read the article, I was thinking you were going to do Econ at Sheffield or Liverpool, not Bristol.

What we are talking about is literally a difference that isn't there. Certainly not worth a year of your life, a year of salary etc.


Original post by Broscientist
You mentioned you want to go into IB and already have an offer for economics from a good university. I would say you go with that, considering the fact that you feel pretty much the same way about both economics and engineering.

Go for a gap year only if your mind is 100% set on doing Engineering. Economics and Engineering could not get any more different as subjects. Engineering is a lot more demanding - if you are not passionate about it you might end up hating it and not getting anywhere.


Thanks for the advice from both you guys
Econ is a good degree as long as it contains plenty of maths. If you're doing a BA in Economics instead of a BSc then make sure you pick the maths modules. If you're doing a BSc then the maths modules are compulsory.

A good degree in Econ puts you at a considerable advantage for jobs in the financial sector. More exclusively, you will have access to actuarial, statistical and operational research fields which all require a relevant degree. An Econ degree is a good investment.
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With an engineering degree, you have some more options. Many engineering grads go into the finance sector because an engineering degree gives you the skills you need for that field. With an engineering degree you can later decide whether to get a job in finance or a job as an engineer based on factors you may consider such as salary, availability..etc. However, with an economics degree, you can't get into engineering if later you decide you want to. If I were you, I would go with the engineering degree. But I might be biased here as I am doing a degree in Aerospace engineering!
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Original post by anonwinner
Thanks for the advice from both you guys


And just to clarify and not let the other guy confuse. Economics degrees will have you better off than Accounting and Finance or Actuarial Science. Actual degree content matters very little, Economics is as you rightly thought looked upon better simply because it's harder to get into. There's a reason why Accounting and Finance only needs AAB at LSE (might have gone up now). Actuarial Science is very specialised, so unless you want to be an actuary there's no advantage in it.

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