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6year medicine at KCL or 5year medicine at st georges?!?!

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Original post by Iqbal007
Not it isn't.....medicine is medicine, you get in and work hard to get through it, they are a very specialist/niche college of the university of London. It's very family like, cheap area to live in and cheap food....though do not like the hospital thing and the small student population though it is more family like.


So the only good points of SG are that its in a cheap place to live with cheap food and has a family feel.. Great. Compared to the negatives of it being tiny, poor reputation of being the easy london med school and having no variety in what it teaches..

If I was you OP go for Kings so you can have some pride
Original post by Trypsin
So the only good points of SG are that its in a cheap place to live with cheap food and has a family feel.. Great. Compared to the negatives of it being tiny, poor reputation of being the easy london med school and having no variety in what it teaches..

If I was you OP go for Kings so you can have some pride


The pride thing is your issue. Don't make it the OP's.
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uer23
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Don't listen to some people going on about prestige. I'd definitely consider SGUL a worldclass medical school in fact it is recognised more internationally with campuses in other parts of the world, King's is soooo 90's. Being closer to Central London doesn't make it more credible. It's quite silly selecting the EMDP over the standard 5-year, if you ask me.
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Original post by Trypsin
So the only good points of SG are that its in a cheap place to live with cheap food and has a family feel.. Great. Compared to the negatives of it being tiny, poor reputation of being the easy london med school and having no variety in what it teaches..

If I was you OP go for Kings so you can have some pride


Yeah....don't worry, the day you step in to your F1 job that will easily just sink to the bottom.
Original post by Trypsin
It's hard to be happy when everyone views SG so lowly. Anyone this is going off topic, thanks for replying


Prestige doesn't matter, I remember seeing a linkedin profile of an American SGUL student who did undergrad at MIT then went back to the US for a Harvard residency.

Its about how smart you are yourself not your school, you'll realize that once you are actually in medical school.

OP, if you are deadset on a the US, then a King's degree will look better mainly because the 6 years will give you extra time to study for the USMLE, if you use it wisely, it will look better to program directors since most of them will assume the more years you spend studying the better you are prepared, especially when all the US students will be doing a 4+4 degree.

Prestige is absolutely not important, except maybe for Oxford and Cambridge. Some PDs might recognize other good medical schools as well but again it won't affect your chances compared to your actual hard stats.
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Original post by Trypsin
It's hard to be happy when everyone views SG so lowly. Anyone this is going off topic, thanks for replying


There is no lowly in Medicine.

There might be universities with better brand name than the other, but a Medicine degree is all, by and large, the same.
Original post by watch your mouth
Thank you everyone for your suggestions they have been great.

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I know peopl will say oh it doesn't matter medicne is same everywhere but since you have the choice why not go for the one wih a better rep? It would look better in your cv More well known? And it's Russell groupI wouldn't let a medicine Offer ffrom kings slip away from me that easily !! As for the course length your going to be spending the next 5/6 years there so the extra year really won't make much of a difference you might aswell spend that time where you enjoy more !! Kings will also offer more facilities being a larger uni. It's in the nicer area of London plus you can get to meet a varity of difdernt people from other courses unlike St georges healthcare only atmosphere :/
Original post by Cookiedough96
I know peopl will say oh it doesn't matter medicne is same everywhere but since you have the choice why not go for the one wih a better rep? It would look better in your cv More well known? And it's Russell groupI wouldn't let a medicine Offer ffrom kings slip away from me that easily !! As for the course length your going to be spending the next 5/6 years there so the extra year really won't make much of a difference you might aswell spend that time where you enjoy more !! Kings will also offer more facilities being a larger uni. It's in the nicer area of London plus you can get to meet a varity of difdernt people from other courses unlike St georges healthcare only atmosphere :/


A load of rubbish. No one will care and SGUL is just as respected in the medical world.
I love SGUL. Am a third year there so slightly biased obviously but I definitely think I'm much happier here than I would have been had I gone to KCL... My bf is at KCL so I know quite a lot about the differences between the two, and I have to say I think SGUL is better. (My bf agrees :tongue:)

KCLMS really was not doing very well, but they are now completely changing the course now so I have no idea what it would be like. But from what I've heard apparently they're taking on a very similar course style to SGUL (spiral learning etc) so you may have that to look forward to by the time you join.

It really comes down to what you think would suit you better. SGUL is really nice, and they are much more clinical/communication skills based than KCL. They really teach you how to become an excellent communicator, and it's pretty good (teach you stuff like how to take a history from day 1). However this does mean that they don't teach you as much in-depth science as they do in KCL, so it's up to you how much sciency stuff you want to know. If you are more geared towards Academic medicine I would go for KCL, but if you prefer practical medicine, then go for SGUL.

If you want any more info PM me :smile:
Original post by Cookiedough96
I know peopl will say oh it doesn't matter medicne is same everywhere but since you have the choice why not go for the one wih a better rep? It would look better in your cv More well known? And it's Russell groupI wouldn't let a medicine Offer ffrom kings slip away from me that easily !! As for the course length your going to be spending the next 5/6 years there so the extra year really won't make much of a difference you might aswell spend that time where you enjoy more !! Kings will also offer more facilities being a larger uni. It's in the nicer area of London plus you can get to meet a varity of difdernt people from other courses unlike St georges healthcare only atmosphere :/


Even at KCL medics tend to only really hang out with medics tbh. It's just the way it goes with every medical school.
Original post by Cookiedough96
I know peopl will say oh it doesn't matter medicne is same everywhere but since you have the choice why not go for the one wih a better rep? It would look better in your cv More well known? And it's Russell groupI wouldn't let a medicine Offer ffrom kings slip away from me that easily !! As for the course length your going to be spending the next 5/6 years there so the extra year really won't make much of a difference you might aswell spend that time where you enjoy more !! Kings will also offer more facilities being a larger uni. It's in the nicer area of London plus you can get to meet a varity of difdernt people from other courses unlike St georges healthcare only atmosphere :/


The one year extra will make a difference of:

- more student debt.
- a year loss of income.
- an extra year of hard work and exam stress.
- a profile of someone who had the bar lowered for them.

All for what? Some irrelevant prestige that makes virtually no difference?

He should go to SGUL.
Original post by LutherVan
The one year extra will make a difference of:

- more student debt.
- a year loss of income.
- an extra year of hard work and exam stress.
- a profile of someone who had the bar lowered for them.

All for what? Some irrelevant prestige that makes virtually no difference?

He should go to SGUL.

No this is not correct ! First of all after 4 years of med school bhs provides bhs bursary for years 5 and six essentially pay for it! And also essentially he's going to be working for the same number of years at the end anyway. So one year won't make a difference ! anyaya it's where he will be happier at because it's a long time !!
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prestige might not matter but depending on your universities you'll get exposed to maybe more research, publishing etc this will come in handy when you're applying for speciality training etc
Overall would you be more happy at a smaller hospital based institution which is highly specialised or a massive international university smack bang in central London with Europes' biggest medical school, its a tough choice
but if you firm kings l'l see you next year ! :rolleyes:
Any more opinions? It seems like a difficult choice indeed. If I was to take prestige out, it would be 6 yrs at a uni I like or 5 years at a uni I am neutral about.

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Original post by watch your mouth
Any more opinions? It seems like a difficult choice indeed. If I was to take prestige out, it would be 6 yrs at a uni I like or 5 years at a uni I am neutral about.

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Could do the Bsc year at SGUL, making your stay at 6 years instead of 5.
Original post by Iqbal007
Could do the Bsc year at SGUL, making your stay at 6 years instead of 5.


But a BSc/MBBS would give you a better score when it comes to FY apps so there is a benefit to doing that over the 6 year KCL without BSc.
Original post by Okorange
But a BSc/MBBS would give you a better score when it comes to FY apps so there is a benefit to doing that over the 6 year KCL without BSc.


You should quote the OP about that

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