I do not understand how you could vote for anybody but the Conservatives

For the record, I am a Conservative supporter. With that in mind, I still do not understand how you could vote for anybody but the Conservatives:

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Labour will spend more (!) money, so debt will increase and eventually the economy will blow up again (like it did before)

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UKIP will decrease spending by breaking all ties with the EU and kicking out immigrants (by doing so our economy and NHS would collapse)

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The Green Party, SNP and Plaid Cymru will spend a lot more money (!!) and put us into even more debt, so the economy will collapse - they'll also punish rich people who will leave the country, like they did in France and Switzerland. So it's goodbye economy! Goodbye NHS! Goodbye jobs!

Conversely, the Conservatives will:

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Decrease spending and reduce the deficit - the debt will therefore be reduced, which will prevent the economy going down the pan. That will:

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Save the NHS

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Save the jobs in the UK

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Allow the country to improve, not get worse - in the end everybody will be better off and the country will also be better off

I really am not trying to be anti-left or anti-anyone who isn't Conservative, I just cannot logically see any other party that will do anything that isn't bad for this country.

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Reply 1

jordan12341

Original post by AlecRobertson

Conversely, the Conservatives will:

Decrease spending and reduce the deficit - the debt will therefore be reduced, which will prevent the economy going down the pan. That will:

Save the NHS
Save the jobs in the UK
Allow the country to improve, not get worse - in the end everybody will be better off and the country will also be better off

I'm not gonna answer this ridiculous question but you could literally say ^this^ about any of the parties, its way too vague to be convincing at all

Reply 2

Mr Smurf

Because they are misguided idealists.

Yes I am a conservative voter too. :h:

Reply 3

Gwilym101

Okay first off.

Spending money has largely shown to be better for long term growth (an example is that it's how America got out of the Great Depression).

Government spending had nothing to do with the collapse of the economy it was to do with banks lending money they didn't have to people they knew couldn't pay it back.

Reducing the deficit will not reduce debt. It will reduce the rate at which the debt increases. Eliminating the deficit (as the tories promised to do by now and said if they hadn't people shouldn't vote for them in this election) might have an impact on the debt. Fundamentally though, the debt doesn't really matter because a) we've been in far more debt than this before and never said we were "bankrupt" and b) the government will always have income, government debt doesn't function the same as personal debt (which you need to get rid of before you retire), so it doesn't matter if the government is always owing somebody something.

The Tories track record with the NHS is sketch at best given that major party donators have been given billion pound contracts for the NHS and they broke many campaign promises about it.

The Tories are not putting enough focus on getting unemployment down, given that this is the actual issue that needs to be fixed and the things they have done were typically found to be exploitative and illegal.

Reply 4

Hermann GÃ¶ring

The Conservatives are proletarianising the working class with zero hours contracts. Would you like to work on zero hours? If it wasn't for your daddy's paycheck you'd be forced to.

Reply 5

Davij038

Too many social conservatives in it for my liking- people that can't stand the coalition, EU and the moderate wing of the party and want to bring back stiff liked the death penalty.

They're pandering to ukip shamelessly

They've sacked superb ministers like Dominic Grieve and replaced them with halfwits.

They want to scrap the HRA and leave the ECHR- utterly disgraceful. Former Chanvellor Ken Clarke has remarked on this.

They're almost as authoritarian as new labour- I don't think the state should have a snoopers charter.

Although inevitable the party is shameless in its fundraising.

I can't see them adopting more radical proposals such as drugs legislation or ending faith schools charitable status or bringing in PR.

They have sacrificed everything to Lynton Crosby.

So all in all I'd rather stick with the liberals and be consigned as a safety valve for when the labcons over step the mark.

Reply 6

Davij038

Original post by Hermann Göring

The Conservatives are proletarianising the working class with zero hours contracts. Would you like to work on zero hours? If it wasn't for your daddy's paycheck you'd be forced to.

I work on zero hours as do my partner without help. We live very comfortably.

Reply 7

ModYom

Original post by AlecRobertson

For the record, I am a Conservative supporter. With that in mind, I still do not understand how you could vote for anybody but the Conservatives:

Perhaps because the majority of people don't want another 5 years of the bigoted Etonian toffs? The party of the rich again - no thanks!

Reply 8

sr90

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See whats happening in France? Thats what will happen here if this socialist coalition gets in.

The only hope for this country is a majority Tory Govt.

Reply 9

ModYom

Original post by AlecRobertson

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Labour will spend more (!) money, so debt will increase and eventually the economy will blow up again (like it did before)]

LOL,and you think that the recession would not have happened were the Tories in charge?? :confused:

get real, the Cons wanted even more deregulation of the banks, the cause of the crisis - and this was a direct follow on from what happened under the ultra Con regime of Republican Bush

Reply 10

ModYom

Original post by AlecRobertson

Conversely, the Conservatives will:

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Decrease spending and reduce the deficit - the debt will therefore be reduced, which will prevent the economy going down the pan. That will:

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Save the NHS

And how will the Cons fund all their giveaways and tax breaks?

Or will you just parrot the Cameron line.....

Reply 11

ModYom

Original post by sr90

See whats happening in France? Thats what will happen here if this socialist coalition gets in.

The only hope for this country is a majority Tory Govt.

Why don't you tell us what's happening in France then instead of just chanting slogans from the Daily Telegraph

Reply 12

Gigabit

Original post by Gwilym101

The Tories track record with the NHS is sketch at best given that major party donators have been given billion pound contracts for the NHS and they broke many campaign promises about it.

Who was the only party to decrease NHS funding over the last five years?

Reply 13

dyslexicvegie

THE FINANCIAL CRISIS OF 2008 WAS COURSED BY THE BANKS NOT THE LABOUR PARTY.

MORE SPENDING WILL NOT COERCE ANOTHER ONE - AUSTERITY MAY COURSE A SOCIAL CRISIS.

Arguably the government should have regulated the banks more but it was the conservatives who opposed government intervention in the financial sector more so than the labour government at the time.

this coming from an economics student

Reply 14

ModYom

top post, well said.

and the Tories now want to de-regulate the pension system - another disaster waiting in the wings, don't these people ever learn?

Reply 15

Everglow

Original post by Davij038

I work on zero hours as do my partner without help. We live very comfortably.

I worked on a zero hours contract for a while too, and it was perfect for me as a student. This demonising of zero hour contracts is silly when you think about how many people benefit from them and actually want them. I agree it's not always ideal for those trying to earn a living, but they do have a place in society and there's no reason to cut them out altogether.

Original post by sr90

See whats happening in France? Thats what will happen here if this socialist coalition gets in.

The only hope for this country is a majority Tory Govt.

I don't know what's going on in France, but I know we don't have a socialist coalition, so I'm not sure where you're coming from there.

I considered voting Tory in my home constituency, but I don't like the candidate and I don't like the things he prioritises. On the other hand I like the Labour candidate more, as well as what he prioritises. I've written to him twice in the past as my MP and I've felt satisfied with both his responses. So he's got my vote.

I wouldn't assume Labour's prerogative will be to spend spend spend. This isn't a Blairite Labour, and it's certainly not a Brown one, thankfully. I also disagree that the Conservatives will save the NHS. If anything I think they've been digging it into a rut, cutting services (notably mental health services) and jobs. They've messed with people's pensions, there's a lack of cohesion amongst the party itself (eg. gay marriage, 2013), and they have little or no regard for students. These are just some of the reasons I have no intention of voting Tory.

Reply 16

TheGuyReturns

So hilarious reading the comments of Tory boys and girls on here and the comment sections of news websites. Dave and his mates are finished, get over it!