Labour will outlaw "Islamophobia"

As much as I hate Labour I see this as a clever idea. Outlawing Islamophobia would eliminate threats caused by the significant number of 'Islamists' as they wouldn't feel targeted hence no need to fight against hatred

Your logic.......... it's so bad.

Original post by dyslexicvegie

BTW the number of people identified as terrorists in this country (and some of them are Catholic Irish terrorists) is in the low hundreds.

It isn't just the home-grown terrorists which are a threat to our national security.

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Falcatas

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Original post by dyslexicvegie

The equalities act protects beleaf along with sexuality and race etc. There are equated under the law.

The Free speech right doesn't take priority over any other of our rights, like the right not to be discriminated against. (according to the laws of the uk)

I defend the right to offend.

So you can have islamophobic thoughts, present those views etc As long as it doesn't go as far as to incite religious hatred or amount to harassment.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that, though it is a poorly chosen word, islamophobia is an irrational hatred which benefits no one.

There is no such thing as a right to be free from discrimination.
To suggest other is to suggest that people should not able to choose whom they wish to asscioate with.

People discriminate all the time. Why do you value your friends more than strangers? Why do some people only prefer to date certain genders and only people they find attractive or funny. It is because they discriminate!

The state should not be the judge when it is fine to discriminate. It is up to individuals to decide what type of discriminate they approve and disaprove and then discriminate accordingly. I personally would discriminate against those who "discriminate against people due to their race or sexuality".

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Marco1

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Right, so they're going to outlaw a linguistic construct designed to advance the domination of Islam in Western countries, by suppressing criticism of the religion. Great thinking again Labour! So if it comes about then we know what to expect - anyone who might legitimately express criticism of Islam would become a target for this character-assassinating accusation and be criminalised. So Labour will put Islam on a pedestal, ring-fence it so it becomes an anomaly in an otherwise free Western society, an uncriticisable religion!
If the average person still doesn't know about the disingenuous political nature of the term Islamophobia then I despair! Ostensibly it claims discrimination, but actually it's all about advancing Islamic Sharia which categorically forbids any criticism at all of Islam. The use of the phony term is employed from either a subversive agenda or blind ignorance. Labour are desperate for the Muslim vote and they know it could tip the scales in their favour. It seems they'd happily sacrifice the social freedoms of their own country to gain power.

(edited 9 years ago)

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22.22

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Original post by Europhile

Labour are just becoming the BNP of the left.

Aren't the BNP 'left'? Their economic policies seem socialist to me, maybe I'm wrong

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dyslexicvegie

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Original post by Falcatas

There is no such thing as a right to be free from discrimination.
To suggest other is to suggest that people should not able to choose whom they wish to asscioate with.

People discriminate all the time. Why do you value your friends more than strangers? Why do some people only prefer to date certain genders and only people they find attractive or funny. It is because they discriminate!

The state should not be the judge when it is fine to discriminate. It is up to individuals to decide what type of discriminate they approve and disaprove and then discriminate accordingly. I personally would discriminate against those who "discriminate against people due to their race or sexuality".

Well good luck getting 40 years worth of anti-discrimination laws repealed.

The next time a see a news article, where some employer has been sued for sacking someone due to their race/gender/sexuality etc. I will be thankful you are not running this country.

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GladImWhite

Did anyone hear Miliband a few weeks ago? pledging his love and support for Israel. He is two faced like all of these leaders and Muslims who vote Labour should know it but the media never highlight these things they cover it up.

Infront of a Muslim audience he plays the Palestine card like many others on the Left but it all controlled opposition to keep Muslims at bay.

They are all alike when it comes to foreign policy and war mark my words.

Muslims would be best to vote Respect party if they wanted a party that represents them and I'm saying this as someone on the Right. Just because I dislike Labour and Conservative party so much. :smile:

(edited 9 years ago)

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PeterHenfield

I think it's great that equality is being risen. Islamophobia is getting a bit too far out of hand.

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driftawaay

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I dont understand what they are going to outlaw exactly, there are already anti discrimination laws based on religion and hate crimes etc are outlawed, are they not? So I dont know how you can outlaw Islamophobia any further.

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driftawaay

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Original post by Falcatas

There is no such thing as a right to be free from discrimination.
To suggest other is to suggest that people should not able to choose whom they wish to asscioate with.

People discriminate all the time. Why do you value your friends more than strangers? Why do some people only prefer to date certain genders and only people they find attractive or funny. It is because they discriminate!

The state should not be the judge when it is fine to discriminate. It is up to individuals to decide what type of discriminate they approve and disaprove and then discriminate accordingly. I personally would discriminate against those who "discriminate against people due to their race or sexuality".

One of the dumbest posts I've ever read on TSR.

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Falcatas

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Original post by driftawaay

One of the dumbest posts I've ever read on TSR.

Well thats because you worship state power and don't believe in freedom of association.

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silverbolt

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Original post by dyslexicvegie

BTW the number of people identified as terrorists in this country (and some of them are Catholic Irish terrorists) is in the low hundreds.

Careful with that one - firstly that war is over.

Secondly and most importantly the IRA were a nationalist group not a religiously motivated one. The catholic/protestant divide was more a by product of a much older fight.

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thunder_chunky

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Original post by DiddyDec

Are they going to define Islamaphobia first?

This. That in itself is a task. There will be much argument on that.

Original post by Rinsed

Islam is a set of beliefs. And a damn silly set of beliefs at that. Good grief, I wish people still respected freedom of opinion in this country.

This.

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Marco1

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Original post by driftawaay

I dont understand what they are going to outlaw exactly, there are already anti discrimination laws based on religion and hate crimes etc are outlawed, are they not? So I dont know how you can outlaw Islamophobia any further.

Essentially it is a way of legally persecuting anyone who criticises Islam. Whether the term can be defined succinctly for legalistic purposes or not is irrelevant. The only winners are those who both secretly and openly are pushing for the eventual imposition of Sharia Islamization of the UK. Labour have zero integrity and will happily sacrifice their own country to get back in power so will do anything to attract the Muslim vote. Sad and shocking, but true.
The term Islamophobia is a linguistic device invented by Islamists to silence free thought in order to promote the dominance of Islam globally which is it's raison d'etre. Islam is an all encompassing, fanatical, uncompromising, deceitful, legal, political, religious, dietary . . . system. It wants to erase other cultures. It traditionally builds mosques over sacred sites. Wake up people! It's not about fairness or what's right, it's about enforcement of a totalitarian ideology.

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jameswhughes

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Original post by quentinhamilton

As much as I hate Labour I see this as a clever idea. Outlawing Islamophobia would eliminate threats caused by the significant number of 'Islamists' as they wouldn't feel targeted hence no need to fight against hatred

Right, because feeling "targeted" is the reason behind Muslims going around chopping people's heads off. :rolleyes:

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driftawaay

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Original post by quentinhamilton

As much as I hate Labour I see this as a clever idea. Outlawing Islamophobia would eliminate threats caused by the significant number of 'Islamists' as they wouldn't feel targeted hence no need to fight against hatred

Dumbest post I've read all week.

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Illiberal Liberal

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Original post by driftawaay

I dont understand what they are going to outlaw exactly, there are already anti discrimination laws based on religion and hate crimes etc are outlawed, are they not? So I dont know how you can outlaw Islamophobia any further.