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I hope tuition fees go back down to £3000 or £1150 a year! I want to go back to uni!

Hi guys!

I just wanted to post this thread to vest my frustration at how expensive going to university is these days! Especially if you're considering a second degree with no government funding available!

I've been working for a few years in odd jobs here and there and I really want to go back to uni to do a maths degree or engineering and I just can't afford £9k a year! £3k a year i can save. £1150 a year would be an absolute dream come true if fees went that low again!

Shame out of all the parties it's only the green party that has said they would get rid of fees entirely. :frown: Young people/students and education just isn't a priority for any of the fat cat politicians anymore! :frown:
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Hello rock climber

IIRC you started various courses and dropped out for various reasons which presumably doesn’t entitle you to student finance. I don’t claim to have the answers but I’m pretty sure that more education isn’t it.

Even if tuition fees were lowered I think you would be better off moving on from academic life.

Perhaps I'm just projecting my own experiences onto you? It took me five years to get my degree after dropping out of an undergraduate degree after two years. I was absolutely sick of it by the end. You could not pay me to do a degree...
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You are in luck. Starting from September, students who already have a degree but want to study part-time degrees in engineering, technology or computer science can get tuition fee loans. Would you consider studying part-time whilst working?
Cutting student paid fees will achieve nothing if university funding isn't bumped up to make good the shortfall.

although it seems a lot of money, the resources that go towards an undergrad degree are pretty expensive and doesn't just magically appear.
I agree and that is why you should vote Labour.
Original post by German123
I agree and that is why you should vote Labour.


To be fair, Labour are proposing a cut of tuition fees to £6000 a year. The vast majority of people still won't be able to pay £18000 up front, any more than they can pay £27000. I agree £9000 or £4500 would be much more doable.

One option for people struggling to fund a second degree might be sponsorship by a company- for something like engineering this is definitely an option- but if you don't stick out the degree or fail, the terms of repayment would be much less generous than a student loan.
Could you do your degree through the OU instead?
Fair enough. I definitely think if people want to vote for a socialist party, Greens are the way to vote rather than Labour.

Realistically, though, the chances of tuition fees going back to <£3000 or the green party getting in are pretty small, so I'd suggest you also investigate some other methods of completing a degree, if that's what you really want to do.
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Yes, the Greens will also get rid of war, poverty, and pollution; everybody will be naked, fornicating on flowers and smoking weed.
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Original post by SlowlorisIncognito
To be fair, Labour are proposing a cut of tuition fees to £6000 a year. The vast majority of people still won't be able to pay £18000 up front, any more than they can pay £27000. I agree £9000 or £4500 would be much more doable.

One option for people struggling to fund a second degree might be sponsorship by a company- for something like engineering this is definitely an option- but if you don't stick out the degree or fail, the terms of repayment would be much less generous than a student loan.


Cool.
Thing is though it costs to pay university staff wages, maintain and run buildings, pay for resources, labs especially. None of this can be done for free, so the money for it has to come some where. When fees were lower universities offered fewer places which ultimately benefitted the more advantaged.
A lot less people went to university then and a lot less universities existed.
in the 60's the % of the possible population that went to uni was something like 5-10%

now it is aprox 45%
Original post by Snufkin
You are in luck. Starting from September, students who already have a degree but want to study part-time degrees in engineering, technology or computer science can get tuition fee loans. Would you consider studying part-time whilst working?


I'm having trouble tracking this down - do you have a link?
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I'm having trouble tracking this down - do you have a link?


http://www3.open.ac.uk/media/fullstory.aspx?id=26388
Original post by 304820
Hello rock climber

IIRC you started various courses and dropped out for various reasons which presumably doesn’t entitle you to student finance. I don’t claim to have the answers but I’m pretty sure that more education isn’t it.

Even if tuition fees were lowered I think you would be better off moving on from academic life.

Perhaps I'm just projecting my own experiences onto you? It took me five years to get my degree after dropping out of an undergraduate degree after two years. I was absolutely sick of it by the end. You could not pay me to do a degree...

Sorry, quoted wrong person.
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Since when were tuition fees £1150 a year? What year did it increase from £1150 a year to £3000 a year? I don't think tuition fees will ever go back to being £3000/£1150 a year. If it does it would probably be a long time later.
There was plenty of money for it back when there weren't half a million people starting uni every year.

I'm not sure why the tuition fees would put your brother off as the repayment terms on student loans are really quite incredibly generous. Nothing to pay until you earn over 21k, automatic and really rather small deduction from your salary, and anything unpaid written off after 30 years. Also doesn't count as debt as far as credit ratings are concerned. Seems to me like people get scared off by the headline figure of 40k of debt etc after three years instead of looking at what they would actually be paying.
Original post by Raymat
Since when were tuition fees £1150 a year? What year did it increase from £1150 a year to £3000 a year? I don't think tuition fees will ever go back to being £3000/£1150 a year. If it does it would probably be a long time later.


it was in 2005 i believe when they went up from 1000 to 3000, the good old days....
Original post by German123
I agree and that is why you should vote Labour.


The taxpayer has to foot the bill then, which is ridiculous. Ideally, fees should stay as they are and student finance should only fund 50% of the tuition fee costs with students having to save up to fund the rest. On top of this, the age at which you can go to university should be moved up to 20 or 21 so people can make more informed choices on what they want to do after having some experience working in the real world. For far too many, university has become the default automatic next step because its funded by others with you only paying back if you earn so much and its an easy way to avoid taking on a job. This is putting an immense burden on public finances and as a consequence, the economy. Money doesn't grow on trees, no matter how much Labour want to convince you otherwise with their idiotic policies. People like yourself is why this nation will continue to be lumped with trillions of debt and why individuals refuse to take responsibility for their own finances expecting to be bailed out when they make a mistake.

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