English Racism Towards Scottish SNP Voters

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Enjoyed campaigning for #SNP an experience l will never forget... Scotland that was mighty impressive.. THANK YOU!!!!

See you next year..

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Reply 21

MatureStudent36

Original post by babybuntin

Enjoyed campaigning for #SNP an experience l will never forget... Scotland that was mighty impressive.. THANK YOU!!!!

See you next year..

Thank you for getting the Tories elected.

I trust the SNP with my bin collections, but I'm really glad that the conservatives are left in charge of economic policy.

Will you be campaigning for a cut in te Barnett formula?

Reply 22

CGSW

Original post by MatureStudent36

Sorry that you have the Tories but enough is enough, we cannot protect the English from what they have chosen to elect themselves. It is simply not our responsibility to do things for you.

Reply 23

MatureStudent36

Original post by CGSW

Sorry that you have the Tories but enough is enough, we cannot protect the English from what they have chosen to elect themselves. It is simply not our responsibility to do things for you.

I'm more worried about what's been elected in Scotland.

The SNP have successfully done more damage to poorer families and the NHS than we've seen south of the border in order to support middle class freebies to the. Idle classes like free university education and council tax freezes.

Reply 24

CGSW

Original post by MatureStudent36

The majority of European countries support free university education, so think twice about why it doesn't exist in England and Wales.

Reply 25

babybuntin

Original post by MatureStudent36

l'll be campaigning to make sure we get rid of the other 3..

enjoy the SNP :smile:

Reply 26

balanced

Let's remember the snp got what 2.2x less vote share than UKIP, in the uk's mind when you take out seats, 5% of the vote is a small party who lets be honest isn't a threat.

Reply 27

babybuntin

lol @ Farage losing to a comedian.... How funny is that?

Reply 28

Smug Life

Original post by babybuntin

lol @ Farage losing to a comedian.... How funny is that?

The SNP got 1/3 of the votes that UKIP did. Even if the SNP get every seat in Scotland in the next election, they still won't be able to form a government, as Labour are finished.

Reply 29

MatureStudent36

Original post by CGSW

The majority of European countries support free university education, so think twice about why it doesn't exist in England and Wales.

They don't send the numbers to university that the UK does.

Why is university uptake greater in Ruk than Scotland?

Why are more kids from
Poorer backgrounds at university in England and Wales than Scotland?

Why are teaching standards in Scottish universities fling whilst Englishman Nd Welsh ones are increasing?

Reply 30

MatureStudent36

Original post by babybuntin

l'll be campaigning to make sure we get rid of the other 3..

enjoy the SNP :smile:

Good to know the SNP diehards are advocating a £1200 per capita cut in public spending.

Reply 31

L i b

Original post by Zander01

Moderate and decent parties? Which parties would they be then? There nothing indecent or unacceptable about independence in the first place place. Unless you think having a more representative democracy is unacceptable? But nevertheless it was made very clear that this election has nothing to do with independence. If anything, the refusal to work with scotlands elected party and the conservative majority will only lead to more support for independence.

I think nationalism is a repugnant, divisive and unacceptable ideology.

As for calling on the Conservatives to work with the SNP: after the SNP completely ruled out working with the Conservatives and tried to craft them into some sort of bogeyman in Scotland? Ha.

Reply 32

L i b

Original post by CGSW

people have the right to express political views, so 'obstructing' their ability to do so and completely slandering and scare-mongering them in the media is completely unacceptable and something you expect to happen in 1915, NOT 2015

No-one is obstructing anyone from that. We're obstructing SNP politicians in their political objectives. Which other parties - far larger parties - have every right to do in a democracy.

A defence against slander is veritas - truth - and in all frankness I think the SNP have got off very easily in the media. Things that would have led to resignations and governments falling at UK level: lying about legal advice, completely botching their central justice policy, failing completely to implement their policy to abolish student debt, inventing nonsense projections on public revenues. The SNP has simply brushed these off.

Reply 33

Zander01

Original post by L i b

Then you're clearly close minded and ignorant. Nationalism for nationalism sake may be divisive and unacceptable but Scottish people have genuine reasons for wanting nationalism, just like the Catalonians do. Unless you think theirs is just as repugnant?

I never mentioned anything about the conservatives. Craft them into some sort of bogeyman? No they have done that themselves with their own policies.

Reply 34

qwerty123asdfg

Original post by CGSW

Sorry that you have the Tories but enough is enough, we cannot protect the English from what they have chosen to elect themselves. It is simply not our responsibility to do things for you.

Is it not our responsibility to support themwhere we can? It is a fact that sScotland going all out SNP had a very damaging effect on english labour ... So we can take some responsibility for that!

Reply 35

qwerty123asdfg

Original post by babybuntin

lol @ Farage losing to a comedian.... How funny is that?

He didn't...

Reply 36

L i b

Original post by Zander01

I never mentioned anything about the conservatives. Craft them into some sort of bogeyman? No they have done that themselves with their own policies

I appreciate sometimes people make mistakes, but to forget that you said--

"the refusal to work with scotlands elected party and the conservative majority will only lead to more support for independence"

within the space of two posts makes me think you've got the memory of a goldfish.

Either way, the Conservatives will not work with the SNP - and while I don't think they necessarily come at it from the same angle as me, I think that's a very good outcome. No-one should be giving people like the SNP or UKIP a platform or assisting them in what they want to do to this country.

Reply 37

Smack

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Original post by L i b

A defence against slander is veritas - truth - and in all frankness I think the SNP have got off very easily in the media. Things that would have led to resignations and governments falling at UK level: lying about legal advice, completely botching their central justice policy, failing completely to implement their policy to abolish student debt, inventing nonsense projections on public revenues. The SNP has simply brushed these off.

I think there are two reasons behind this.

One, the SNP can do almost no wrong in the eyes of their supporters. Indeed, criticism of the above is often brushed off as "talking Scotland down", "fearmongering", etcetera. The SNP have been elevated to a status above a mere political party.

Two, the opposition parties are giving them a fairly easy ride, too. The last FMQs I listened to consisted largely of Kezia Dugdale and Willie Rennie asking Sturgeon whether she is planning another independence referendum. The answer is obviously "yes", as that's the entire point of the SNP's existence. I honestly think a lot of people aren't particularly aware of what goes on in domestic Scottish politics; I think it's a subject that's taken a back seat ever since the referendum.

I think Scottish politics is somewhat lacking in talent. But now that the SNP are very much in the spotlight as the third largest party in Westminster I think (hope!) that they get a much better scrutinising there.

Reply 38

CGSW

Original post by L i b

Nationalism in the sense of thinking a country's population is superior to others is dangerous; nationalism of wanting the best for the people of your country is not.

Reply 39

Zander01

Original post by L i b

Of course it is just as repugnant. Nationalism is an ideology and that is what I'm attacking: the colour of the flag or the particular set of (usually invented) grievances that nationalists hold on to is irrelevant.

There are no excuses for adhering to the negative ideologies of division and separation. Every horrendous political movement in history, from South African apartheid to German national socialism, has attempted to justify itself by referring to the evils that were or would be visited on it by some perceived other. It doesn't justify it - it makes you part of the problem.

I appreciate sometimes people make mistakes, but to forget that you said--

"the refusal to work with scotlands elected party and the conservative majority will only lead to more support for independence"

within the space of two posts makes me think you've got the memory of a goldfish.

Either way, the Conservatives will not work with the SNP - and while I don't think they necessarily come at it from the same angle as me, I think that's a very good outcome. No-one should be giving people like the SNP or UKIP a platform or assisting them in what they want to do to this country.

Not sure if I can even take you seriously when you preach about the evils of nationalism and display that flag in your display picture.

The issue here is that you're generalising nationalism with your very black and white perspective. Next you'll be telling me that the Swadeshi movement was comparable to the Nazis.

You misinterpreted that sentence. 'And the conservative majority' was a separate entity. I should have made it clearer but I was on my phone and in a rush when I typed it.

I know the conservatives won't work with the SNP, just like the SNP won't work with the conservatives. The point is; with labour pandering to the British media and refusing to work with the SNP, it has only strengthened the nationalism agenda in Scotland. The conservative majority is another factor in encouraging the independence movement.

Although why people were stupid enough to vote no but then complain about getting a tory government, I'll never know.