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  1. Faye Valentine's Avatar
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by gemgems89)
    Sukkot is beautiful yeah. Love it!

    How do you mean? If a non-Jew converts then they're Jewsh. This has no bearing on the mother of the convert in any way.

    Male Jews have a wide array of female Jews to choose from! And a fine bunch we all are. :p:

    Thanks.
    you sure? i thought that converted jews are not officially jews with the same rights, e.g. can't become rabbis.
    just wondered how strict that "jewish blood" thing is in the jewish law, but it sure doesn't matter anyway :rolleyes:
    true, there are a lot of great jewish females (though i'd prefer to do the choosing myself )!
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    once a jew converts...they are a fully fledged jew......its not like harry potter and "muggle blood" :P
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Faye Valentine)
    you sure? i thought that converted jews are not officially jews with the same rights, e.g. can't become rabbis.
    just wondered how strict that "jewish blood" thing is in the jewish law, but it sure doesn't matter anyway :rolleyes:
    true, there are a lot of great jewish females (though i'd prefer to do the choosing myself )!
    Nope. Converts can become a rabbis.


    One can choose for oneself. :confused:
  4. Faye Valentine's Avatar
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
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    Nope. Converts can become a rabbis.
    strange - i'm sure i read somewhere that converts have some restrictions...good to know they haven't.

    (Original post by gemgems89)
    One can choose for oneself. :confused:
    :rofl: i KNOW that one can choose for oneself, i just wanted to point out that i prefer to chose my boyfriend instead of "be chosen" by him (how you put it)...in terms of activity, you know!? ...Nevermind
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Faye Valentine)
    strange - i'm sure i read somewhere that converts have some restrictions...good to know they haven't.


    :rofl: i KNOW that one can choose for oneself, i just wanted to point out that i prefer to chose my boyfriend instead of "be chosen" by him (how you put it)...in terms of activity, you know!? ...Nevermind
    Indeed.

    You really have lost me girl. What do you mean? I'll blame the lateness (I know it's only 10pm) of the night and the fact I have two exams tomorrow on my slowness.
  6. Faye Valentine's Avatar
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    Indeed.

    You really have lost me girl. What do you mean? I'll blame the lateness (I know it's only 10pm) of the night and the fact I have two exams tomorrow on my slowness.
    really, don't worry, i'm sure it's just me having no clue.
    as i said, i read somewhere that in orthodox judaism converted jews are not termed jews but members of the jewish people (in addition to a dislike of conversions in general) because they are no jews by blood, ergo not "god's chosen people", ergo aren't allowed to become rabbis.
    so i thought to myself (naturally): "This really sucks, i dare to call it racist." and wondered how far it goes.
    probably i mixed sth up (i read a lot in my life after all) or it was just complete rubbish (which conclusion i tend to).
    anyway, i'm glad we sorted that out

    Good luck with your exams tomorrow!
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Faye Valentine)
    really, don't worry, i'm sure it's just me having no clue.
    as i said, i read somewhere that in orthodox judaism converted jews are not termed jews but members of the jewish people (in addition to a dislike of conversions in general) because they are no jews by blood, ergo not "god's chosen people", ergo aren't allowed to become rabbis.
    so i thought to myself (naturally): "This really sucks, i dare to call it racist." and wondered how far it goes.
    probably i mixed sth up (i read a lot in my life after all) or it was just complete rubbish (which conclusion i tend to).
    anyway, i'm glad we sorted that out

    Good luck with your exams tomorrow!
    Oh no you can't do this to me. Please explain. :p:

    This is untrue. Converts are considered Jews once they've converted... and can be referred to "members of the lost tribes" or something. I.e. they got lost and have found their way back, or something.

    Yes.

    Thanks.
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    Are we not conflating race and religion here?
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Carl)
    Are we not conflating race and religion here?
    Not really. The second someone converts to Judaism, they are considered an ethnic Jew and a follower of Judaism (the only difference is that if a convert to Judaism becomes an atheist later on, they stop being a Jew, since it means they never really became a Jew). For example, if a woman converts to Judaism, has a child, and that child becomes an atheist, that child would still be considered a Jew by the rabbis.
    Last edited by Bismarck; 23-01-2007 at 23:47.
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    ah ok now I understand.
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Carl)
    ah ok now I understand.
    Good.
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Bismarck)
    :lies: :stink:
    ....
  13. gemgems89's Avatar
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    Good shabbos to everyone!
  14. Carl's Avatar
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    As a gentile that non-inclusive greeting has quite offended me
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Carl)
    As a gentile that non-inclusive greeting has quite offended me
    "...to everyone."

    Just because you don't observe it it doesn't mean you can not be wished a good shabbos!
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    It wasn't inclusive enough :p:
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Carl)
    It wasn't inclusive enough :p:
    Good shabbos CARL!!!!!!!!!!!
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    woohoo and you Gem :hugs:
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    (Original post by Carl)
    woohoo and you Gem :hugs:
    Glad I could finally please you. :hugs:
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    Re: The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO
    So how is everyone today (and Carl)?
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