Racist and anti-immigration views held by children revealed in school study
Survey of 6,000 schoolchildren finds many have a wildly distorted view of the number of immigrants in Britain, negative attitudes about Muslims, and pessimism about their own future opportunities.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/may/19/most-children-think-immigrants-are-stealing-jobs-schools-study-shows
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I find this quite believable from doing work with teenagers about asylum seekers, we did a game on statistics from around the world and the uk. The group i worked with thought there were more immigrants than white people in the uk (this group didn't believe that white people could be immigrants 
). Better education on these topics is very much needed within schools.
). Better education on these topics is very much needed within schools.It is reassuring that there is still a bulwark of reality based reasoning in the face of extreme indoctrination into the State religion of political correctness, and these children have not yet been cowed into disguising their views.
On the "wild distortions", since the % of immigrants by area is vastly different, eg white British are a minority in several large cities including the capital London, white children in those areas will naturally believe their experience of being an ethnic minority in their homeland to be mirrored across the nation. Conversely smug internationalists in leafy white suburbs will ask what the fuss is about and label children bigots.
On the "wild distortions", since the % of immigrants by area is vastly different, eg white British are a minority in several large cities including the capital London, white children in those areas will naturally believe their experience of being an ethnic minority in their homeland to be mirrored across the nation. Conversely smug internationalists in leafy white suburbs will ask what the fuss is about and label children bigots.
Original post by thesabbath
It is reassuring that there is still a bulwark of reality based reasoning in the face of extreme indoctrination into the State religion of political correctness, and these children have not yet been cowed into disguising their views.
On the "wild distortions", since the % of immigrants by area is vastly different, eg white British are a minority in several large cities including the capital London, white children in those areas will naturally believe their experience of being an ethnic minority in their homeland to be mirrored across the nation. Conversely smug internationalists in leafy white suburbs will ask what the fuss is about and label children bigots.
On the "wild distortions", since the % of immigrants by area is vastly different, eg white British are a minority in several large cities including the capital London, white children in those areas will naturally believe their experience of being an ethnic minority in their homeland to be mirrored across the nation. Conversely smug internationalists in leafy white suburbs will ask what the fuss is about and label children bigots.
Where I worked with children was in an area where less than 1% of the population are an ethnic minority. It was the media that was colouring these children's perceptions. One of them knowing that I came from a London area asked what it was like to be in the minority being white. Education is needed before these children are labelled as bigots influenced by the bias of the media.
Original post by GemmaConlin
Where I worked with children was in an area where less than 1% of the population are an ethnic minority. It was the media that was colouring these children's perceptions. One of them knowing that I came from a London area asked what it was like to be in the minority being white. Education is needed before these children are labelled as bigots influenced by the bias of the media.
What is it like being minority exactly in London?? The small child had a very valid point.
Bizarre how you think the earnest child's question was 'racist'.
Yet it is only White children who have been bullied to death in British schools...
Aaron Dugmore, 9 years old hanged himself after being bullied for being White.
But oh no he's White, he can't be a victim can he? Racism is something White people do to non-White's to keep them down! while they're made foreigners in their own homeland, their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
Aaron Dugmore, 9 years old hanged himself after being bullied for being White.
But oh no he's White, he can't be a victim can he? Racism is something White people do to non-White's to keep them down! while they're made foreigners in their own homeland, their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
Original post by FengDewey
Yet it is only White children who have been bullied to death in British schools...
Aaron Dugmore, 9 years old hanged himself after being bullied for being White.
But oh no he's White, he can't be a victim can he? Racism is something White people do to non-White's to keep them down! while they're made foreigners in their own homeland, their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
Aaron Dugmore, 9 years old hanged himself after being bullied for being White.
But oh no he's White, he can't be a victim can he? Racism is something White people do to non-White's to keep them down! while they're made foreigners in their own homeland, their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
No, no no. You don't understand. being racist against white people isn't racist, its just prejudice....so, if a white people tells racist joke, its a lot more serious than if a non-white person rapes and tortures an underage white girl.
Surely you understand the difference here? If not, then i think you need re education.
It pisses me off when some people view immigrants as just black and brown people.
Immigrants are anybody from outside your countries borders which include white people as well.
Also I find it really stupid to judge someone from the actions of another, skin colour doesn't affect behaviour. As for the jobs part,
"How dare they steal our jobs which we never applied for or got in the first place so technically it wasn't our property and technically isn't stealing then"
Immigrants are anybody from outside your countries borders which include white people as well.
Also I find it really stupid to judge someone from the actions of another, skin colour doesn't affect behaviour. As for the jobs part,
"How dare they steal our jobs which we never applied for or got in the first place so technically it wasn't our property and technically isn't stealing then"
Original post by capitalismstinks
What is it like being minority exactly in London?? The small child had a very valid point.
Bizarre how you think the earnest child's question was 'racist'.
Bizarre how you think the earnest child's question was 'racist'.
They don't if you look at the figures and see that white people are not the minority. I'm not saying it was racist, the point I was making is about the media is affecting people's judgement n such issues. The child had never been to London but was purely under this impression due to the media.
These children have a great many reasons to be afraid.
Also when white people are the minority before the end of this century, can we call everyone else racist?
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Also when white people are the minority before the end of this century, can we call everyone else racist?
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Original post by FengDewey
their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
Not defending this at all but isn't this what the British empire did all over the world?
Vietnam, india, native america etc?
Lol.
'Distorted'
Just because someone disagrees with left-wing agenda doesn't mean it's distorted. 13% of people being foreign-born disregards completely the other non-white "British" people who are absolutely not integrated at all, in any way shape or form. That number is closer to 1/5, and it's not hard to have these views when your own capital city is minority-White British.
When you have "British" Indians who speak mediocre English and it wasn't their native language despite being born here, continue to wear their veils and mingle within their own communities yet they are counted as part of the 87% "Brits", it's hard to take these statistics seriously. Then you have the right-wing argument that they are politically over-influential because without minorities, Tony Blair would never have been Prime Minister and the Tories would have been in Government from 1979 - 2015+ because Labour hasn't won the White vote for 35 years.
"Educate them better"
Yeah, social engineering at it's best. We all know how well forcing racists to be quiet turned out in the U.S. and U.K.
'Distorted'
Just because someone disagrees with left-wing agenda doesn't mean it's distorted. 13% of people being foreign-born disregards completely the other non-white "British" people who are absolutely not integrated at all, in any way shape or form. That number is closer to 1/5, and it's not hard to have these views when your own capital city is minority-White British.
When you have "British" Indians who speak mediocre English and it wasn't their native language despite being born here, continue to wear their veils and mingle within their own communities yet they are counted as part of the 87% "Brits", it's hard to take these statistics seriously. Then you have the right-wing argument that they are politically over-influential because without minorities, Tony Blair would never have been Prime Minister and the Tories would have been in Government from 1979 - 2015+ because Labour hasn't won the White vote for 35 years.
"Educate them better"
Yeah, social engineering at it's best. We all know how well forcing racists to be quiet turned out in the U.S. and U.K.
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Original post by capitalismstinks
What is it like being minority exactly in London?? The small child had a very valid point.
Bizarre how you think the earnest child's question was 'racist'.
Bizarre how you think the earnest child's question was 'racist'.
In London white Brits are the ethnic minority.
Original post by FengDewey
Yet it is only White children who have been bullied to death in British schools...
Aaron Dugmore, 9 years old hanged himself after being bullied for being White.
But oh no he's White, he can't be a victim can he? Racism is something White people do to non-White's to keep them down! while they're made foreigners in their own homeland, their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
Aaron Dugmore, 9 years old hanged himself after being bullied for being White.
But oh no he's White, he can't be a victim can he? Racism is something White people do to non-White's to keep them down! while they're made foreigners in their own homeland, their girls mass raped by grooming gangs.
How about the schools which are almost completely muslim where the boys don't let the girls even go outside at a school break? That can only be taught by male teachers? Is this Britain?
Original post by SeaPony
Why is it racist to say an immigrant could take a job you could of had? It is common sense immigrants need jobs too so do they need schools and healthcare like we do... but in a leftists world they float on clouds and crap jelly babies.
Anybody can take a job you could have had. It isn't necessarily racist, but it is xenophobic. Foreign-born people can be perfectly capable of any jobs, too.
Original post by Raymat
Survey of 6,000 schoolchildren finds many have a wildly distorted view of the number of immigrants in Britain, negative attitudes about Muslims, and pessimism about their own future opportunities.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/may/19/most-children-think-immigrants-are-stealing-jobs-schools-study-shows
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/may/19/most-children-think-immigrants-are-stealing-jobs-schools-study-shows
Racist? lol what?
wow guardian. wow.
asylum seekers and immigrants are taking are jobs*
thats a problem question right there. asylum seekers are not the same as immigrants.
60% said yes. i don't blame them. because theyre not wrong. the british government is not training our youth to become ready for the jobs that are in demand. youth unemployment is through the roof. youngsters are the first generation to have a lower life expectancy than their elders. immigrant and female children have been prioritized so much that now the common working class white male is the most under preforming demographic in schools. with loans being reduced, property skyrocketing, poor business opportunities, shoddy low quality university education, a lack of apprenticeships and the government saying that now you have to work for your benefits encouraging employers to fire you so they can rehire you for free. being taught european languages poorly and not being reported to or taught about the EU and how to be politically involved and aware in europe. an EU immigration that is a one way benefit in favor of europe. the uk made the most jobs and they were filled by europeans. nobody from the uk is going and working in europe on mass in the way europeans are coming here. oh yea and the nhs being privatized. so now after the oldest living generation is on its way out in their 80s n 90s now our generation thats already gonna die younger poorer and without any property to leave behind to their children but also we're gonna have to worker harder and pay to live in this mess. with privatization sending transportation through the roof too we're also gonna be less able to commute. its no wonder the poor little blaggos are pessimistic.
migrants are all here legally*
well thats a stupid question. of course not ALL of them are here legally. that question might aswell be. are all people obeying the law. of course theyre not.
these questions are ridiculous.
news papers contribute to racism.
70% saying yes to that statement.
and your saying these kids are racist?
surely being aware of the power of the media to manipulate your true life experiences into out of touch 2nd hand information based out of touch ideologies makes them seem quite sensible to me.
your not asking "do news papers tell the truth honestly are they bias" etc...
or "are reports on ethnic minorities true"
racism is taken more seriously when its towards people of color than it is towards white people. 84% saying yes.
seriously your surprised at this?
we have pakistanis raping white kids on mass and getting away with it because police are afraid of being called racist and any white person that brings it up risks their entire careers and even their safety for being labeled a racist.
The average estimate for the percentage of foreign-born people living in the UK was 47%. The true figure is 13%, according to the 2011 census.
has a study been done on the representation of foreigners represented on TV? cause you may find the childrens views correlate more with that.
and the inflation could be evidence of the fact that they feel that foreigners needs are considered more important than their own and that for them to be so important they must be a larger group than what they really are.
"the rest of the society thinks foreigners needs in this country are more important our own" would of been a good question to ask.
28% believed jobs being taken by foreign workers might stop them reaching their goals,
well that could be a self esteem issue. also using the term MIGHT means that some kids could read the question as. "a negative outcome may come about from something" its too vague.
49% agreed that migration to the UK is out of control or not being managed properly.
again you need to ask one or two separate questions here for a less vague answer.
but ok 49% do not have faith in the immigration system. message received.
Nearly a third agreed with the statement “Muslims are taking over England”, while 41% disagreed,
so what was the 3rd 3rd. i guess the middle group was "don't know?"
so the majority think they are NOT taking over england. and the 3rd that do think that. again. i don't blame them. for such a tiny section of the population they do make the headlines a lot in terms of demands and problems that they cause. indeed many muslims actually DO WANT to TAKE OVER the uk.
and on average respondents thought Muslims made up 36% of the population,as opposed to the true figure of around 5%
again not surprising considering how much air time they get and noise that they make. muslims are thought about FIRST before ourselves on every corner.
when charlie hebdo happened the first worry was. OH NO WHAT WILL BE THE BACKLASH AGAINST MUSLIMS. this was said ON THE SAME DAY.
lets not worry about the fact that muslims just attacked our community. lets think about them and worry about what skin head neanderthals MIGHT do in response.
again i think the population distortion represents the distortion of muslims importance in this country. indeed though it is true that muslims have an authority in this country that extends beyond its local population due to the fact that it has lobbying power across the entirety of europe.
Almost half [47%] agreed there are poor relations between Muslims and non-Muslims in England.
well it appears that the other half are retarded. because its PRETTY DAMN CLEAR that there are poor relations. there wouldnt be a need for government action or the likes of the quilliam foundation and henry jackson society if there wasn't.
Many of those questioned were also pessimistic about their own futures, with more than a third – 35% – believing they would not achieve their potential at school, well there you go. british education has been going down the toilet for years. and now your managing to educate kids into having extremely low self esteem and ambition too. great job.
40% stating they will not earn enough in the future,
earn enough for what? very subjective question.
and 43% saying there is a lack of job opportunities. so 43% pay attention to the TV.
thoughts about muslims
islam is a religion of peace
the majority of kids said it WAS a religion of peace. sadly they are wrong as it isn't a religion of peace. it may not be a religion of total war (although some would argue it is) it is obviously not a religion of peace.
muslims believe in the same god as Christians subjective question
yes its supposed to be the same god by a different name. but many would argue that the god mohamed represents and the god jesus represents are two very different gods. indeed christians believe jesus WAS god. which is different to what muslims believe. so technically they do not believe in the same god depending on their views of the trinity. so you screwed up with the question there.
muslim women are oppressed
majority said "Dont Know" with the second largest amount saying "yes" so some are being fair and saying they do not know cause they are not muslims to judge. or some know enough to say they are. like maybe theyve read the quran. heard about the niqab. or the fact that female genital mutilation is a problem in only the muslim community here.
n again with a bad question. oppressed by whom? non muslims? is this muslim discrimination? or is this oppression by other muslims from within their community?
infact in every single question here the majority of kids said they don't know.
but anyway
islam encourages extremism/terrorism.
well yea it does. but the kids stupidly don't think so. with the majority saying no.
forced marriages are common in islam
perhaps not so much in the uk but certainly in the muslim world yes. its well known in morocco rape victims are forced to marry their perpetrators.
muslims contribute positively to society
again they naively say yes. i personally think if you replaced all muslims with people of the same skill set but just without the religion there'd be a lot less problems.
then more b.s. questions
not having enough money or job opportunities were things they were worried about getting in the way of their goals. well yea. they are sober and aware in this area.
jobs being taken by foreign workers was a fear of 29% of them. still a minority worry. but yea. they should be worried. they have a much larger force of people to contend with both domestically and in the EU.
large BRIC nations are also becoming much more globally competitive int he educated work force.
interestingly more kids were worried about not achieving their best at school (34%) than worried about foreigners taking job opportunities
with 17% worried their school didn't give them enough support.
so half of that 34% felt it was the school that was letting them down.
33% were unsure of what to do. considering they were 10-16 year olds im suprised its not higher.
the unfortunate 12, 11 and 9%
were worried their family would not support them, didnt have anyone to look up to and didn't have any goals.
17% believed nothing would stop them
and 21% believed they were not able to afford higher education.
which is quite high.
good idea for a study. but executed poorly.
If you want to raise a generation of white social justice warriors, you've got to indoctrinate them while they are young.
How young were these children? It's pretty ridiculous to probe the minds of people who watch Spongebob all day but then use their opinions as a poster to explain racism. So if these children (who really don't give a ****) are finally educated about demographics, I don't see how beneficial that is. It would be better to go to Uni students, I'd think, because whatever they chose, they can be held accountable. I'm not going to look at what a bunch of 12 yr olds picked as enlightenment.
Original post by Raymat
Survey of 6,000 schoolchildren finds many have a wildly distorted view of the number of immigrants in Britain, negative attitudes about Muslims, and pessimism about their own future opportunities.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/may/19/most-children-think-immigrants-are-stealing-jobs-schools-study-shows
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/may/19/most-children-think-immigrants-are-stealing-jobs-schools-study-shows
Good. What is known as "racism" is actually something completely natural that the whole world feels.
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