Podemos do well in Spanish

...elections (I always mess up thread titles)
and other anti-austerity and corruption groups

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32871610

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/25/spains-indignados-ada-colau-elections-mayor-barcelona

Also this woman is now mayor of Barcelona :teehee:

Unlike in thsi country where we just ask for more of it people across Europe are actually resisting it ¬¬

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 1

Davij038

13

Gee hopefully they'll be as successful as Syriza...

Or not. Spain's economy is improving* they'd be stupid to jack that in for a bunch of economically illiterate, socialist populism.

*http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/01/news/economy/spain-economy-growth/

Reply 2

ChaoticButterfly

OP

20

Original post by Davij038

Gee hopefully they'll be as successful as Syriza...

Or not. Spain's economy is improving* they'd be stupid to jack that in for a bunch of economically illiterate, socialist populism.

*http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/01/news/economy/spain-economy-growth/

Greece was being wrecked well before Syriza got in. Austerity didn't fix it.

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 3

Davij038

13

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

Greece was being wrecked well before Syriza got in. Austerity didn't fix it.

The first part is true, the second isn't because it was never really implemented*. Syriza are just making things worse, piling up higher debt before they inevitably capitulate.

The sad part is obviously its not the average Greeks fault, but their inability to find a government that isn't a bunch of crooks. Syriza to be fair to them at least seem well meaning but they are still worsening the problem. The EU should send an administrative to sort them out like in Italy.

*http://www.economist.com/blogs/newsbook/2012/02/greece-and-euro

Reply 4

Rakas21

21

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

...elections (I always mess up thread titles)
and other anti-austerity and corruption groups

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32871610

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/25/spains-indignados-ada-colau-elections-mayor-barcelona

Also this woman is now mayor of Barcelona :teehee:

Unlike in thsi country where we just ask for more of it people across Europe are actually resisting it ¬¬

I'm actually a little reassured by this since it's only 6 months until the general election. Unlike in Greece where Syriza were clear winners, it looks like PODEMOS only came third and the governing party won even if not with a majority.

Both Spain and Greece are though the worst, they should stick with their current governments (albeit Syriza took over after the prior government had finally got the Greek economy moving).

Reply 5

MatureStudent36

5

Original post by Davij038

Gee hopefully they'll be as successful as Syriza...

Or not. Spain's economy is improving* they'd be stupid to jack that in for a bunch of economically illiterate, socialist populism.

*http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/01/news/economy/spain-economy-growth/

I was just about to say that. Watch Barcelona bomb shortly.

Reply 6

SotonianOne

3

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

Unlike in thsi country where we just ask for more of it

well thank god for it, we're not the fastest growing european nation for no reason after all

*insert Yorkshire created more jobs than France in 2014 meme here*

Reply 7

aliciarc_

1

We need a change in Spain and they are giving us it. They are like the 3rd or even 2nd force because all the mass media are against them...they say false things like they are going to make Spain comunist and once I even heard they would let the power into yihadist hands... :K:

I mean that's totally false!

The problem is that there are at least 3 big left parties in Spain so the left is divided and only 1 right party. Now, there is another right new party called Ciudadanos which is getting more popular but you know...here who vote the right does not change the party...conservatives!

Original post by Davij038

Gee hopefully they'll be as successful as Syriza...

Or not. Spain's economy is improving* they'd be stupid to jack that in for a bunch of economically illiterate, socialist populism.

*http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/01/news/economy/spain-economy-growth/

Well, what almost anybody knows is that the GDP is growing because they added PROSTITUTION AND DRUGS to it. It is something the EU told all the countries to do in 2016 and some countries are doing now. In contrast, the poverty risk has increased and now it is almost 30%...WOW

Reply 8

SotonianOne

3

Original post by aliciarc_

We need a change in Spain and they are giving us it. They are like the 3rd or even 2nd force because all the mass media are against them...they say false things like they are going to make Spain comunist and once I even heard they would let the power into yihadist hands... :K:

I mean that's totally false!

The problem is that there are at least 3 big left parties in Spain so the left is divided and only 1 right party. Now, there is another right new party called Ciudadanos which is getting more popular but you know...here who vote the right does not change the party...conservatives!

Well, what almost anybody knows is that the GDP is growing because they added PROSTITUTION AND DRUGS to it. It is something the EU told all the countries to do in 2016 and some countries are doing now. In contrast, the poverty risk has increased and now it is almost 30%...WOW

are you kidding me thinking 35 billion $ growth comes from prostitution and drugs?

damn .. those prostitutes are expensive

Reply 9

aliciarc_

1

Original post by SotonianOne

are you kidding me thinking 35 billion $ growth comes from prostitution and drugs?

damn .. those prostitutes are expensive

Well, they can be expensive but as you can imagine it isn't easy to calculate those activities since they don't pay taxes. They calculate it in a roughly way and what they want is to give the image of everything goes good with them. So we can suppose they have calculated more than less...

fortune.com/2014/10/08/spain-gdp-drugs-prostitution

Reply 10

jsearapriet1

1

Original post by aliciarc_

We need a change in Spain and they are giving us it. They are like the 3rd or even 2nd force because all the mass media are against them...they say false things like they are going to make Spain comunist and once I even heard they would let the power into yihadist hands... :K:

I mean that's totally false!

The problem is that there are at least 3 big left parties in Spain so the left is divided and only 1 right party. Now, there is another right new party called Ciudadanos which is getting more popular but you know...here who vote the right does not change the party...conservatives!

Well, what almost anybody knows is that the GDP is growing because they added PROSTITUTION AND DRUGS to it. It is something the EU told all the countries to do in 2016 and some countries are doing now. In contrast, the poverty risk has increased and now it is almost 30%...WOW

Lol ¿Me estas diciendo que Podemos es el cambio que necesita España? Por dios, pero si aún no han llegado a nada y ya están robando. Son como todos los políticos. No perdón, son peores. Van de políticos de pueblo, de que van a repartir la riqueza, y que si la "casta" médica va a cobrar lo mismo que el pueblo obrero. Sin embargo, no hablan sobre sus sueldos espectaculares de políticos. ¿Eso no se toca verdad? Además, el día que gobierne Podemos (que no llegará), España se va a la m*****. Se van los médicos, abogados, ingenieros, empresarios...etc. Todo el que tenga carrera dice byebye y se larga.

Lo que ellos proponen es inviable. Si se cobra lo mismo sin estudiar que habiendo estudiando, lo mismo en paro que trabajando, no se incentiva nada más que ser un vago.

Y si lo que pretenden es dejar a España sin empresa pública, dile adiós al señor Amancio Ortega, al dueño del Mercadona y los de muchas otras empresas que cogen las maletas y se van dejando en el paro a media España.

Quita los festivos religiosos como la Semana Santa y dejas a un cuarto de la población y a los bares y restaurantes y hoteles de localidades que viven del turismo sin un centavo. Otra quiebra. España vive del sector terciario y del turismo, por lo que la empresa privada es la fuente principal de riqueza. Quitando eso no se qué se supone que va a mejorar. A Podemos se le ocurre de todo menos algo que ayude al pueblo.

¿Quieres que te cuente lo más gracioso? Que también pretenden tener sueldos escandalosos, horas laborales reducidas e impuestos mínimos. A día de hoy el Sr Iglesias aún no ha comentado como pretende hacer esto. A día de hoy ni él lo sabe.

Otro dato interesante: el partido está fundado con dinero venezolano, porque, como dice el Sr Iglesias, son un modelo a seguir. Ahí está. El país donde la gente hace cola para comprar leche. Ese país comunista que es de los pocos países sudamericanos que no avanza. Por qué será. (Dinero, que por lo que se ve algo tiene que ver con el narcotrafico. Esa historia también es interesante.)

Y tú dirás que no están ligados al Comunismo. Hay vídeos en Youtube de Pablo Iglesias izando la bandera comunista antes de que perteneciese a Podemos. Y también está la foto de él sonriente junto a la puerta de su aula en la Complutense que tiene una pegatina Comunista bastante graciosa.
Y como a tí, a mi el bipartidismo no me hace ni pizca de gracia. Pero no por ello votaría a este señor ni a ningún afiliado.

Dato interesante: hace unos meses el ministro de economía griego (de Syriza) posaba en su ático espectacular con vistas de lujo. Pero cuidado, que el sigue pensando que la riqueza se reparte y viva el Comunismo.