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Physics Degree Vs Engineering Degree

Huy guys,

I'm currently in year 12 studying maths, physics, economics and ICT. I've been thinking about what is the best path to follow for my degree. I've been unsure as the whether to look more towards engineering or physics.

Engineering seems to offer good opportunities as there are loads of jobs available, plus you can switch between some of the difference disciplines if you've had enough of the one you're doing. Its likely that an you won't need to for too long to get a pretty good job. This is the direction that my parents have pushed me towards. Anytime I say to anyone that "I'm considering physics or engineering at university", they always seem to ignore the suggestion of physics and talk to me about engineering instead. Is engineering more prestigious/interesing?

Physics, meanwhile, looks like it could be great fun - particularly areas like astrophysics and particle physics. The issue for me is where would I go once I've done a degree in these areas? A job here seems less likely as it is quite a niche profession. I know that I'd love the subject but I'm not certain that it would give me such good career prospects.

For my career, I really don't want to do a 'regular' job. I'd like something where I can create, innovate and achieve new things, plus impress people when I tell them about my job. Working at CERN or ESA seems like my dream job but it will inevitably be really difficult to get in there. Sometimes I doubt whether I have what it takes to make it in such a profession but I do think ambitiously and I will work hard to get there.

Also, I was just interested in opinions on physicists and engineers. I hear some banter about engineers being stupid compared to physicists. Is physics really that much harder than engineering? I know the opinions of others shouldn't really count but I'm just interested in this. :smile:
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Most physicists transition into engineering at some point. Studying physics will get you a taste of both in your life. If you go for engineering straight away you will never really experience true physics.

Also physicists get employed pretty much anywhere. Wherever you find engineers you will find physicists behind the scenes.

If you want to learn any more about physics you can PM me. My degree is mostly physics but with a touch of engineering. I also have a year's experience working as a research physicist in the field and met many other physicists and engineers.
Original post by MatOnMotors
I hear some banter about engineers being stupid compared to physicists. Is physics really that much harder than engineering? I know the opinions of others shouldn't really count but I'm just interested in this. :smile:

Both are very, very hard. If you're very maths based you'll probably find physics to be slightly easier, otherwise you'll probably find engineering to be the easier choice. But don't get me wrong though, you still need a high level of maths ability to be an engineer.
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Thanks :smile:

Thing is with engineering, I'm not yet certain for sure if I'll love it. Got very little experience of what its really like but I know a bit more about physics. Also, I don't tend to tinker around with things. I do wonder if engineering students create and build things before they go for their degree so I might be behind in the practical aspect. Still, I have a summer job with my local electricity company in the pipeline so that should help me out.

I am definitely concerned about the difficulty level. The maths content migth be a concern since I don't really have a natural ability in maths. I'm going for an A this year in maths but that has been achieved through practice rather than intuition. I don't know if I'm underestimating myself at all as work that I'm given that I'm supposed to find hard is often ok for me. I tend to understand things when shown them, its just the problem solving aspect that I have issues with. Questions that differ from what I'm used to can throw me off a bit so I'll need to work towards becoming a maths machine!

Found this thread and this guys seems to have a very similar idea to me. Would aerospace be a good route to follow then? Or would physics still offer better chances. As I'm not certain which I'd prefer, physics may well still be a good bet since engineering is more of an unknown plus the switch is available.
This question comes up very frequently on the internet, and the answer usually boils down to this:

If you want to work as an engineer, then you've really got to study engineering. Otherwise, it doesn't particularly matter.

Engineering is also likely your best bet of actually getting to use physics in the "real world", as part of your job. The amount of engineering jobs vastly outnumber the amount of physicist jobs. A lot of physics graduates end up working in other areas, such as finance, IT, teaching and the like, whereas the majority of engineering graduates go on to become engineers upon graduation.
Original post by Smack
This question comes up very frequently on the internet, and the answer usually boils down to this:

If you want to work as an engineer, then you've really got to study engineering. Otherwise, it doesn't particularly matter.

Engineering is also likely your best bet of actually getting to use physics in the "real world", as part of your job. The amount of engineering jobs vastly outnumber the amount of physicist jobs. A lot of physics graduates end up working in other areas, such as finance, IT, teaching and the like, whereas the majority of engineering graduates go on to become engineers upon graduation.


Just to build on this - one physics student friend wanted to go into engineering after he graduated. He found it much harder to get a job than he anticipated, which was mainly down to degree subject (his grades are flawless and he has some work experience). He did eventually find an engineering job to go to, but the point is that it wasn't as easy as he thought it would be - essentially, if you want to be an engineer, you'll probably find it easier if you take an engineering degree.

From what I see of physics students, a large number go into finance, some go and do PhDs, some go into secondary teaching and some go into engineering - though of course there are other opportunities open to physics graduates.

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That definitely pushes me closer to engineering then. I've looked around the internet and there are a few differing opinions. It appears that physics degrees are more for those who don't know what to do and to keep their options open. If I did a physics degree, I think it would be likely that I would follow the engineering route as becoming a physicist isn't so simple.

What kind of general engineering courses are available. I heard that at Cambridge, you just enter engineering for the first year or two before you specialise. Where else can you get this since I would like a taste of the different disciplines. I think a broader knowledge about the subject would help in the future.
Original post by MatOnMotors
That definitely pushes me closer to engineering then. I've looked around the internet and there are a few differing opinions. It appears that physics degrees are more for those who don't know what to do and to keep their options open. If I did a physics degree, I think it would be likely that I would follow the engineering route as becoming a physicist isn't so simple.

What kind of general engineering courses are available. I heard that at Cambridge, you just enter engineering for the first year or two before you specialise. Where else can you get this since I would like a taste of the different disciplines. I think a broader knowledge about the subject would help in the future.


A number of universities offer general courses along the lines of Cambridge. And even many "specialised" degrees are in fact fairly general in the first few years too.

Regarding your first point, I would say that physics degrees are for people who want to study more physics.
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Original post by MatOnMotors
Huy guys,

I'm currently in year 12 studying maths, physics, economics and ICT. I've been thinking about what is the best path to follow for my degree. I've been unsure as the whether to look more towards engineering or physics.

Engineering seems to offer good opportunities as there are loads of jobs available, plus you can switch between some of the difference disciplines if you've had enough of the one you're doing. Its likely that an you won't need to for too long to get a pretty good job. This is the direction that my parents have pushed me towards. Anytime I say to anyone that "I'm considering physics or engineering at university", they always seem to ignore the suggestion of physics and talk to me about engineering instead. Is engineering more prestigious/interesing?

Physics, meanwhile, looks like it could be great fun - particularly areas like astrophysics and particle physics. The issue for me is where would I go once I've done a degree in these areas? A job here seems less likely as it is quite a niche profession. I know that I'd love the subject but I'm not certain that it would give me such good career prospects.

For my career, I really don't want to do a 'regular' job. I'd like something where I can create, innovate and achieve new things, plus impress people when I tell them about my job. Working at CERN or ESA seems like my dream job but it will inevitably be really difficult to get in there. Sometimes I doubt whether I have what it takes to make it in such a profession but I do think ambitiously and I will work hard to get there.

Also, I was just interested in opinions on physicists and engineers. I hear some banter about engineers being stupid compared to physicists. Is physics really that much harder than engineering? I know the opinions of others shouldn't really count but I'm just interested in this. :smile:


Have you considered taking further maths.
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Original post by Jai Sandhu
Have you considered taking further maths.


I am considering it, yes. Definitely going to drop ICT next year. I'd like to pick up further maths but I'm still a bit concerned whether doing it may hurt my results in my other subjects especially as the exams appear to getting harder.
Original post by MatOnMotors
I am considering it, yes. Definitely going to drop ICT next year. I'd like to pick up further maths but I'm still a bit concerned whether doing it may hurt my results in my other subjects especially as the exams appear to getting harder.


You do realise that exams getting harder will not affect your grades as the grade boundaries over all will fall, also every year ever has said that. If you dont take further maths it will probably hurt you if you are considering engineering or physics as they amongst the most mathematically demanding subjects at university after mathematics.
Original post by Jai Sandhu
You do realise that exams getting harder will not affect your grades as the grade boundaries over all will fall, also every year ever has said that. If you dont take further maths it will probably hurt you if you are considering engineering or physics as they amongst the most mathematically demanding subjects at university after mathematics.


Very true that. Was put off a bit after the FP1 exam where even the best mathematicians said that they really struggle with it. I suppose that I need to be able to handle it at this level if I want to succeed at university. I know that I'll certainly enjoy doing it.

What will the universities think if I have no further maths? Will they want higher grades in the other subjects?
Original post by MatOnMotors
Very true that. Was put off a bit after the FP1 exam where even the best mathematicians said that they really struggle with it. I suppose that I need to be able to handle it at this level if I want to succeed at university. I know that I'll certainly enjoy doing it.

What will the universities think if I have no further maths? Will they want higher grades in the other subjects?


The top universities although do not require it expect it of you. I self taught further maths for half a year in AS till I joined the school's classes because I recognised it would be necessary for a strong application for physics which is what I wanted to do. Now hold offers to study maths, that is how much I enjoyed it. FP1 is really not that hard at all, it is somewhere in between C2 and C3 difficulty, closer to C2.
Hi

I'm in year 13 and went through exactly the same decision making and thought process as you, torn between physics and engineering. I study physics, maths, further maths and design&technology.
I held offers from Oxford, Imperial College, Durham, Bristol & Bath. These were a mixture of offers for mechanical engineering at Imperial, Bath and Bristol, and general engineering at Oxford and Durham. I have made Oxford my firm and Bristol my insurance.
In order to come to a decision, I went on taster days and the subject masterclasses at Cambridge. Since engineering is not a taught subject you should really try and do some research, perhaps look into any public lectures surrounding engineering at local universities to really get a feel for what it is like, and the same for physics if you can.

After attending both the physics and engineering masterclasses at cambridge I came to the conclusion that I wanted to pursue engineering as it used combined physics and maths into working designs and gave a purpose to all the calculations you do. I'd also suggest looking at these taster courses http://tasters.gradsintocareers.co.uk/ as I went to one at Queen Mary about engineering and it really confirmed my decision about wanting to do engineering and made me excited for it.

Both options will lead you into great careers and are similar in many aspects but the most important thing in all of this is what will you enjoy for 3/4 years. Look at course modules and what is common at universities to help you decide to.

Good luck!
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Original post by MatOnMotors
Huy guys,

I'm currently in year 12 studying maths, physics, economics and ICT. I've been thinking about what is the best path to follow for my degree. I've been unsure as the whether to look more towards engineering or physics.

Engineering seems to offer good opportunities as there are loads of jobs available, plus you can switch between some of the difference disciplines if you've had enough of the one you're doing. Its likely that an you won't need to for too long to get a pretty good job. This is the direction that my parents have pushed me towards. Anytime I say to anyone that "I'm considering physics or engineering at university", they always seem to ignore the suggestion of physics and talk to me about engineering instead. Is engineering more prestigious/interesing?

Physics, meanwhile, looks like it could be great fun - particularly areas like astrophysics and particle physics. The issue for me is where would I go once I've done a degree in these areas? A job here seems less likely as it is quite a niche profession. I know that I'd love the subject but I'm not certain that it would give me such good career prospects.

For my career, I really don't want to do a 'regular' job. I'd like something where I can create, innovate and achieve new things, plus impress people when I tell them about my job. Working at CERN or ESA seems like my dream job but it will inevitably be really difficult to get in there. Sometimes I doubt whether I have what it takes to make it in such a profession but I do think ambitiously and I will work hard to get there.

Also, I was just interested in opinions on physicists and engineers. I hear some banter about engineers being stupid compared to physicists. Is physics really that much harder than engineering? I know the opinions of others shouldn't really count but I'm just interested in this. :smile:


Engineering is harder than Physics

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Original post by Jai Sandhu
The top universities although do not require it expect it of you. I self taught further maths for half a year in AS till I joined the school's classes because I recognised it would be necessary for a strong application for physics which is what I wanted to do. Now hold offers to study maths, that is how much I enjoyed it. FP1 is really not that hard at all, it is somewhere in between C2 and C3 difficulty, closer to C2.


A friend of mine has been teaching me some FP1 and it seems really enjoyable. I didn't find it too difficult but we've not covered much of it. Most people say that its more like C3/C4 in terms of difficulty. I heard that the exam this year was much harder than normal, however.

If I get a bad grade in it, will it have a negative impact on my applications? I shouldn't be too bad at it since I've only been lower than a B once before in every exam that I've done. Learning some stuff over the summer should help, plus the greater depth of knowledge can only help my maths.
Original post by LouN1997
Hi

I'm in year 13 and went through exactly the same decision making and thought process as you, torn between physics and engineering. I study physics, maths, further maths and design&technology.
I held offers from Oxford, Imperial College, Durham, Bristol & Bath. These were a mixture of offers for mechanical engineering at Imperial, Bath and Bristol, and general engineering at Oxford and Durham. I have made Oxford my firm and Bristol my insurance.
In order to come to a decision, I went on taster days and the subject masterclasses at Cambridge. Since engineering is not a taught subject you should really try and do some research, perhaps look into any public lectures surrounding engineering at local universities to really get a feel for what it is like, and the same for physics if you can.

After attending both the physics and engineering masterclasses at cambridge I came to the conclusion that I wanted to pursue engineering as it used combined physics and maths into working designs and gave a purpose to all the calculations you do. I'd also suggest looking at these taster courses http://tasters.gradsintocareers.co.uk/ as I went to one at Queen Mary about engineering and it really confirmed my decision about wanting to do engineering and made me excited for it.

Both options will lead you into great careers and are similar in many aspects but the most important thing in all of this is what will you enjoy for 3/4 years. Look at course modules and what is common at universities to help you decide to.

Good luck!


Thanks mate; congrats on those great offers! :smile:

Its a bit harder for me to attend the tasters as I live in the Channel Islands. I'm going on a uni trip with the sixth form later this year plus might be going over with family. I'll have a look into it and see if I can arrange anything for then.
Original post by MatOnMotors
A friend of mine has been teaching me some FP1 and it seems really enjoyable. I didn't find it too difficult but we've not covered much of it. Most people say that its more like C3/C4 in terms of difficulty. I heard that the exam this year was much harder than normal, however.

If I get a bad grade in it, will it have a negative impact on my applications? I shouldn't be too bad at it since I've only been lower than a B once before in every exam that I've done. Learning some stuff over the summer should help, plus the greater depth of knowledge can only help my maths.


It will not impact your application, the standard of FP1 is nowhere near that of C3 and C4. It is an AS module and C3 and C4 are A2 modules.
Original post by MatOnMotors
A friend of mine has been teaching me some FP1 and it seems really enjoyable. I didn't find it too difficult but we've not covered much of it. Most people say that its more like C3/C4 in terms of difficulty. I heard that the exam this year was much harder than normal, however.

If I get a bad grade in it, will it have a negative impact on my applications? I shouldn't be too bad at it since I've only been lower than a B once before in every exam that I've done. Learning some stuff over the summer should help, plus the greater depth of knowledge can only help my maths.


First of all, you do not "need" FP to purse engineering at uni. They re-teach all the same stuff anyway in 1st year. I didn't do FM and I got accepted to all the unis I applied to for Engineering (even top ones like Durham) if you think FM will be an overload, do not do it. If you think it's too hard, reconsidering going into mathematical fields like Engineering and Physics.

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You could do both :smile:
Loughborough offers an engineering physics course iirc
Or you could do applied physics

I am in the exact same position as you. I love physics and engineering. In America you can do both at the same time. Its called a double major.

Right now my problem is taking up further maths. Apparently it's important for both courses and it isn't part of my alevel choices

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