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Resolution 2007/3: Concerning the Situation in Somalia

Brazil supports this and wishes America to do the right thing in supporting this as I can say we all have skeletons in are wardrobes including my beloved Brazil.

Reply 21

philjw

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Austria is in agreement with the aims of this resolution, but would prefer the resolution to also support the continued presence of the current African Union peacekeeping force, which is supporting the Transitional Government of Somalia, and to reaffirm the United Nation's support for the Transitional Government.
She also feels that (2.) is too vague, and should specify which Member States are being condemned. Austria reminds the UN that, in addition to US and Ethiopian military forces operating in Somalia on the side of the Transitional Government, Eritrea is suspected of supplying arms and soldiers to the Union of Islamic Courts, fighting against the TG.
With appropriate revision, Austria is confident she will support the resolution.

Reply 22

gemgems89

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Israel disagrees with clause 2.

Reply 23

bikerx23

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America agrees with Israel - it's very poor of member states to condemn external forces which have brought a government back to office from an attempted overthrow by militia.

Reply 24

gemgems89

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Israel totally backs America on this one (and indeed, every one). Until this clause is deleted from the resolution, Israel will not support it.

Reply 25

Alasdair

OP

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Belgium would refer Israel and America to Chapter I, Article 2, Paragraph 4.

The UN Charter

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state

Reply 26

kldhasnm

To condemn the external help Somalia is getting is negligent in Greece's opinion.

Greece shall vote against clause 2, and subsequently will vote against the resolution.

Reply 27

Alasdair

OP

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philjw

Austria is in agreement with the aims of this resolution, but would prefer the resolution to also support the continued presence of the current African Union peacekeeping force, which is supporting the Transitional Government of Somalia, and to reaffirm the United Nation's support for the Transitional Government.

Belgium is not aware that AU peacekeepers have been despatched. Is the delegate from Austria thinking of Darfur?

Also, Preambulatory Pagraph 3 of the resolution already reaffirms 'the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) as the sole legitimate authority of Somalia'.

She also feels that (2.) is too vague, and should specify which Member States are being condemned. Austria reminds the UN that, in addition to US and Ethiopian military forces operating in Somalia on the side of the Transitional Government, Eritrea is suspected of supplying arms and soldiers to the Union of Islamic Courts, fighting against the TG.

Belgium initially felt that this vaguer wording allow the resolution easier passage past a US veto. It seems, however, that he opposite is true.

With appropriate revision, Austria is confident she will support the resolution.

Excellent.

Reply 28

kilitz

The United Republic of Tanzania would like to support this resolution. We are extremely close to Somalia geographically and have raised concern about our security numerous times in the UN. Speaking on behalf of the people to Tanzania, I would like this matter looked into deeply because in the past, US troops have withdrawn from Somalia eventually leading to the situation in the Horn of Africa deteriorating.

Reply 29

philjw

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alasdair_R

Belgium is not aware that AU peacekeepers have been despatched. Is the delegate from Austria thinking of Darfur?

Apologies, in fact an 8,000 strong force has been approved by the UNSC but not yet deployed.

Reply 30

Apollo

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bikerx23

America agrees with Israel - it's very poor of member states to condemn external forces which have brought a government back to office from an attempted overthrow by militia.

The goverment is made up of militias :rolleyes:

Reply 31

ma3eeni

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Jordan will have to disagree regarding clause 2; condemning the help Somalia has recieved from other countries to put its goverment back in place.
Unless that part of the resolution is edited, we will have to vote against it.

Reply 32

bikerx23

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Apollo

The goverment is made up of militias :rolleyes:

[ooc]Yes, but not islamic militias[/ooc]

Militias with the desire to form a democratic society in Somalia with the backing of its people and the aim of restoring peace to this region of Africa.

Reply 33

Apollo

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bikerx23

[ooc]Yes, but not islamic militias[/ooc]

Militias with the desire to form a democratic society in Somalia with the backing of its people and the aim of restoring peace to this region of Africa.

Why does it matter whether it's an islamic militia or not?

I'm not sure who said anything about a democratic society, by all accounts President Ahmed is an authoritarian who has a history of killing his detractors.

Reply 34

bikerx23

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Apollo

Why does it matter whether it's an islamic militia or not?

Because the US has no bias whatsoever internationally on the race issue....

Reply 35

Craghyrax

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alasdair_R

Belgium would refer Israel and America to Chapter I, Article 2, Paragraph 4.

The UN Charter

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state

Germany stands by the charter, and still supports the resolution including clause 2.

Reply 36

Apollo

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bikerx23

Because the US has no bias whatsoever internationally on the race issue....

Glad to hear it.

Reply 37

Nutter

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Australia will support and vote in favour of this resolution provided that Clause 2 is either rephrased or removed entirely. We understand and are concerned by the worsening situation in Somalia but feel that the resolution attempts to completely dismiss the efforts of foreign countries in trying to establish democracy and good governance in Africa.