I got one as the zwitterion of glutamic acid (m/z=129) and the other one was just two zwitterions bonded together (m/z=258).
Oh that, I drew two cyclic structures for that, they had the correct masses I believe (so one was glutamic acid bonded to itself, the other a dipeptide bonded to itself). Hope that wasn't bull****.
129 was the mass of glutamic acid minus H20 so I figured it had to have a peptide in there (258 was the dipeptide minus water).
Unless I'm wrong the zwitterion should have the same mass as the molecular amino acid.
Oh that, I drew two cyclic structures for that, they had the correct masses I believe (so one was glutamic acid bonded to itself, the other a dipeptide bonded to itself). Hope that wasn't bull****.
129 was the mass of glutamic acid minus H20 so I figured it had to have a peptide in there (258 was the dipeptide minus water).
Unless I'm wrong the zwitterion should have the same mass as the molecular amino acid.
Oh **** lel you're right, got confused about what the zwitterion is. That's 2 marks lost. I just took water out and left the ends and HN+ and CO- and didn't bother joining them up. Then i did the dipeptide but didn't join the ends up again.
Oh **** lel you're right, got confused about what the zwitterion is. That's 2 marks lost. I just took water out and left the ends and HN+ and CO- and didn't bother joining them up. Then i did the dipeptide but didn't join the ends up again.
Awh No matter, sure you did fine on the rest, right?
No offense to OCR people, but 2-4 DNPH is quite easy to do? We covered it in AS Chemistry with CIE, as well as the reactions and products. Perhaps you've never seen it in a past paper before but as long as you know the structure of the compound it really comes down to common sense (within your knowledge of chemistry)
Also, people making petitions are ridiculous. Grade thresholds are adjusted so that a certain % of people get a certain grade, even if that means that some years it might be 85% raw marks for an A, and others 60% raw marks for an A.
No offense to OCR people, but 2-4 DNPH is quite easy to do? We covered it in AS Chemistry with CIE, as well as the reactions and products. Perhaps you've never seen it in a past paper before but as long as you know the structure of the compound it really comes down to common sense (within your knowledge of chemistry)
The question had a 2,4-DNP product but the question was actually NMR. I didn't even read it properly because of time constraints so I had no idea it was about 2,4-DNP until after the exam. It was purely a H NMR question.
The question had a 2,4-DNP product but the question was actually NMR. I didn't even read it properly because of time constraints so I had no idea it was about 2,4-DNP until after the exam. It was purely a H NMR question.
That makes the petition even more ridiculous, given you are actually able to deduce the structure of the compound. Basically people have found an excuse for not being able to answer an NMR question, which usually are quite tricky (or at least with CIE they can drive you crazy).
Is the 'Clearing' ad bothering anyone else? It seems to deliver a subliminal message, like I'll be needing it in August. Doesn't help calm my nerves :P
No offense to OCR people, but 2-4 DNPH is quite easy to do? We covered it in AS Chemistry with CIE, as well as the reactions and products. Perhaps you've never seen it in a past paper before but as long as you know the structure of the compound it really comes down to common sense (within your knowledge of chemistry)
I think it was the fact that it literally said as an "examiner's tip" in the textbook that it wouldn't come up. Also I know that for edexcel at least, we aren't taught what the hydrazine group is, so I wouldn't be able to draw it...
I think it was the fact that it literally said as an "examiner's tip" in the textbook that it wouldn't come up. Also I know that for edexcel at least, we aren't taught what the hydrazine group is, so I wouldn't be able to draw it...
And it didn't come up. The examiner's tip said we wouldn't be asked to draw the structure of a DNPH product, and while technically we were, the point was to deduce the structure of the ketone it had reacted with to form the product. We were given the structure of DNPH in the question.