Mens societies at university

Well, feminist/women societies are needed as females are oppressed far greater than men, this does not mean that men are not oppressed in some instances but it means that they are not victims of prejudice/discrimination to the same extent of women. Men can also be affected by sexism, however men tend to benefit more from this sexism than women.

I think many boys, most likely including the one in this article, aren't exactly looking for some type of competition but they just seem to lack understanding. He has identified one or two 'male issues' and is crying out that this is all so unfair that there is a FemSoc to discuss female issues. The fact is, females have more issues when it comes to sexism, many of which really only affect females and perhaps can not be dealt with outside of the society as efficiently if not for the society. 'Male issues' on the other hand, often can be dealt with in other ways OR are not male-only issues.

Do specific male mental health groups need to be set up then rather than male issue groups? Feminist groups won't be talking about mental health in the same way...mental health is perhaps about something the individual needs to work on, whereas the onus in feminist groups is on there being problems with society

So how can we deal with the issue of the ever growing male suicide rate, considering that the current mental health services are failing?

Yes, women are so "oppressed" that's why the make up the majority of university students.

What does it matter if men have less issues? They still do have issues, and so there is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to form groups to discuss them. The fact that they are not taken seriously enough for people to thik they are worth discussing is perhaps the biggest reason why they are worth discussing.

There are already existing mental health organisations and services, I don't think there needs to be a society. These organisations/services should focus more on male health issues which I'm sure can be done in a number of different ways. I just don't see why a men's society is needed to discuss the mental health of men.

Why does it even matter to you if men get a society? Like how does that make life any worse for women?

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if some people wanted a men's society to have a good moan at the stuff some feminists pull.

Why does it even matter to you if men get a society? Like how does that make life any worse for women?

Could you hit me up with a cool graph?

Edit - like this:
http://cebmh.warne.ox.ac.uk/csr/images/msui6811.gif

But perhaps one that actually demonstrates your claim...
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I don't profess to be an expert on mental health, suicide, male mental health or male suicide. Neither do I claim to know the accurate up-to-date statistics. I am saying simply that the relevant organisations or services can deal with this, they should be working on efficient campaigns to battle the rise in male suicide. How do you believe male societies can deal with this issue?

wanna bet on how far it's stayed the same? or is consistent with the UK's demographics?

The trend seems to correlate to 1990, but diverges to 1998

http://cebmh.warne.ox.ac.uk/csr/images/msui6811.gif

Since then (what 17 years ago) the rate has slumped by 1/3rd back to the level of the mid 70s.

And the jump only relly effected those in the 15-24 age bracket, to a lesser extent those 25-44, but for men older than that, there has been a decline since the late 60s, and quite a drop for men over age 65...

Men quite often find it difficult to seek help in the first place so having a group of understanding people with whom you could talk to about your problems could very beneficial. They could also provide friendship to those who are quite simply just lonely.

Do you not think that everything possible should be done including male societies?

Why shouldn't men be able to get together in society? Is it just because they face as many problems as women therefore their problems do not matter? And why does it bother you if they do?

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what? that graph isn't even comparing the contrast between the amount of male and female suicides

Why does it need to?

The poster said the rise in mens suicide rate.

You need to go back over 50 years to see a rise...

Some people may want a male society so they can moan about feminists haha great, that has made me change opinion. Seriously though, out of curiosity what type of things do feminists 'pull' which would cause men to want to moan together?

I didn't show you that poster as if there was a rise, I showed it to you to show the difference between the amount of male suicides and female suicides.