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Original post by MatureStudent36
Time on their hands. Do you know anybody who would befriend somebody who believes in holocaust denial?

It would be like knowing a friendly kiddie fiddler or people trafficker.


Well, exactly, holocaust deniers deserve to be ostracised in my opinion. There's no excuse for holding such views, as there is no excuse for kiddie fiddling.
Original post by thehistorybore
Well, exactly, holocaust deniers deserve to be ostracised in my opinion. There's no excuse for holding such views, as there is no excuse for kiddie fiddling.


I was never taught about the holcaust. History is full of monumental historic events that a few days here and there will never do it justice.

Part of me feels that a child will never understand it and should never try to at a young age.

I do however think that everybody in their last year at school should be made to watch three television documentaries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz:_The_Nazis_and_the_%27Final_Solution%27

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_at_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_War_(documentary)
Original post by MatureStudent36
I was never taught about the holcaust. History is full of monumental historic events that a few days here and there will never do it justice.

Part of me feels that a child will never understand it and should never try to at a young age.

I do however think that everybody in their last year at school should be made to watch three television documentaries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz:_The_Nazis_and_the_%27Final_Solution%27

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_at_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_War_(documentary)


Teaching young students things of such weight will never be effective.
Original post by thehistorybore
Should it be taught or shouldn't it?

Whilst it is obviously a topic that can be studied historically (it has origin/effects etc), is it disrespectful to teach it, as no single person can do justice in conveying the absolute horror, or should it be taught as part of a lesson for humanity?

Interested to know what everyone thinks.


It is an historical topic like any other - except only one view is allowed.
It should be taught. It is an awful time in world history, but the current generations can learn from mistakes of the past, and make it so they won’t happen again.
Original post by tyu888
The truth needs no protection, so why do holocaust deniers need to be silenced?

Holocaust deniers are trying to replace a horrifying truth with some horrifying lies.
Many holocaust deniers are unpleasant individuals with an equally unpleasant agenda like Nick Griffin and David Irving.
Reply 66
I was taught about Anne Frank at primary school. At the time I remember feeling upset and couldn't comprehend the scale of events. It did however frame the way I thought about the world in that it affirmed 'bad things happen to good people. Up until then I'd probably lived in a bubble, only informed by BBC newsround and not really taking things in. Despite sensitivities, history should be taught accurately. It's strange how the brutality of the Romans didn't strike the same nerve.
Reply 67
Original post by tyu888
I bet they didn't tell you that part of Anne Frank's diary is written in biro, although the biro wasn't available until after the war. They probably didn't tell you about the Auschwitz swimming pool and the Auschwitz football fields, theatre and concert halls. There is a video on youtube 'holohoax survivors who tell the truth' which gives a rather different picture than the official story.

We were taught about Auschwitz and I remember the class being in tears. A lot to take in for 10 year olds but thought provoking nonetheless. I'll check that out though. I must have had a sadistic primary teacher. I also rember class tears over tsarist Russia, come to think of it. By the time I got to secondary, learning about atrocity was like water off a ducks back. I'll look into that link.
Original post by tyu888
I thought David Irving had done extensive research using only original sources.

David Irving's conclusions in relation to the holocaust, hitler's role and the gas chambers at auschwitz were all factually inaccurate.
It seems that David Irving established contact with members of the nazi party who had worked alongside hitler or the upper echelons of the nazi party and had known them quite well.
Such individuals were willing to provide him with diaries, quotes, interviews based upon their recollections and access to nazi era "archives".
Irving himself has acknowledged that some documents provided to him in this manner were nazi propaganda creations or of dubious provenance.
Original post by SlS66
We were taught about Auschwitz and I remember the class being in tears. A lot to take in for 10 year olds but thought provoking nonetheless. I'll check that out though. I must have had a sadistic primary teacher. I also rember class tears over tsarist Russia, come to think of it. By the time I got to secondary, learning about atrocity was like water off a ducks back. I'll look into that link.

You should also check articles which debunk the claims above.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-shadow-of-auschwitz-5344954.html
https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/af3-ballpoint-pen/
https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/5jzl95/anne_franks_diary_is_a_fraud_a_look_at_anne_frank/
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/08/books/an-authenticated-edition-of-anne-frank-s-diary.html

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