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Has anyone ever considered homosexuality as a mental illness?

Someone close to me has a mental illness, and for some reason they research it tons to try and understand themselves better I guess. But they always tell me. And all it is, it's just that they're normal in most ways to everyone else other than a few aspects of their opinions and attitudes. That's exactly what homosexuals are, they're normal people but they just fancy the wrong sex. I reckon people would be way more supportive if we knew it was a brain deficiency, rather than thinking they're attention seeking because evidently only a few homosexuals do that.

And it's the same people that attack homosexuals that attack disabled people. It all makes sense. There are these few people that commit gay crime, which makes all homosexuals feel negative. Maybe some proper research into it would be necessary, I mean every other possible act is labelled under some sort of stupid mental illness.

It's a clear possibility, yay they've allowed this mental illness in all US states lol, weird.

However the only argument I can think of it that the mental illnesses I know people suffer with are more of an on/off type. Homosexuals I don't think are on/off about their sexuality, or are they?
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Original post by ComputerMaths97
Has anyone ever considered homosexuality as a mental illness?

Someone close to me has a mental illness, and for some reason they research it tons to try and understand themselves better I guess. But they always tell me. And all it is, it's just that they're normal in most ways to everyone else other than a few aspects of their opinions and attitudes. That's exactly what homosexuals are, they're normal people but they just fancy the wrong sex. I reckon people would be way more supportive if we knew it was a brain deficiency, rather than thinking they're attention seeking because evidently only a few homosexuals do that.

And it's the same people that attack homosexuals that attack disabled people. It all makes sense. There are these few tards that commit gay crime, which makes all homosexuals feel negative. Maybe some proper research into it would be necessary, I mean every other possible act is labelled under some sort of stupid mental illness.

It's a clear possibility, yay they've allowed this mental illness in all US states lol, weird.

However the only argument I can think of it that the mental illnesses I know people suffer with are more of an on/off type. Homosexuals I don't think are on/off about their sexuality, or are they?

*Waits for attacks from homosexuals that can't accept this idea, not even considered it lol*


For it to be a mental illness though, it has to negatively impact day to day activities or life, neither of which homosexuality does.

It's the stigma surrounding it which negatively impacts day to day life, not the homosexuality itself.

I'm not saying it's the norm, because the majority is heterosexual, but that doesn't make it a mental illness or unnatural.

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Original post by XcitingStuart
For it to be a mental illness though, it has to negatively impact day to day activities or life, neither of which homosexuality does.

It's the stigma surrounding it which negatively impacts day to day life, not the homosexuality itself.

I'm not saying it's the norm, because the majority is heterosexual, but that doesn't make it a mental illness or unnatural.

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Hmm yes I understand what you mean, but it does effect their day to day doings, whether it's negative or not is a debate still going on evidently.
Original post by ComputerMaths97
Has anyone ever considered homosexuality as a mental illness?

Someone close to me has a mental illness, and for some reason they research it tons to try and understand themselves better I guess. But they always tell me. And all it is, it's just that they're normal in most ways to everyone else other than a few aspects of their opinions and attitudes. That's exactly what homosexuals are, they're normal people but they just fancy the wrong sex. I reckon people would be way more supportive if we knew it was a brain deficiency, rather than thinking they're attention seeking because evidently only a few homosexuals do that.

And it's the same people that attack homosexuals that attack disabled people. It all makes sense. There are these few tards that commit gay crime, which makes all homosexuals feel negative. Maybe some proper research into it would be necessary, I mean every other possible act is labelled under some sort of stupid mental illness.

It's a clear possibility, yay they've allowed this mental illness in all US states lol, weird.

However the only argument I can think of it that the mental illnesses I know people suffer with are more of an on/off type. Homosexuals I don't think are on/off about their sexuality, or are they?

*Waits for attacks from homosexuals that can't accept this idea, not even considered it lol*


Wow.

To consider it a mental illness you'd need evidence and a theory behind it. It also suggests that there could be a cure. Which would imply it's something society would prefer to get rid of. Why on earth would anyone want to do that? Practically homosexuality makes perfect sense, it's natures way of population control. What would you suggest? Gathering up every homosexual, stripping them of their rights and try to 'cure' them of something they actually embrace?
I'm not like that tbh i dont care if people know or not. Im not going tobe like hey everyone I'm homo. Nope not me

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Original post by ComputerMaths97
Wooo, I'm Straight!


Whatdoyawant, a chocolate medal? :tongue:
Actually pal, most people carry the news for us rather than us announcing it like some grand statement. For example, when I came out, I only told two "friends" - they had spread it to everyone within the day. Same at my sixth form, a friend was telling me she knows this girl who thinks I'm cute and stuff and trying to set me up with her - I told them I'm not interested because I'm gay. She carried that news to everyone. Not me.
Original post by ComputerMaths97
Has anyone ever considered homosexuality as a mental illness?

Someone close to me has a mental illness, and for some reason they research it tons to try and understand themselves better I guess. But they always tell me. And all it is, it's just that they're normal in most ways to everyone else other than a few aspects of their opinions and attitudes. That's exactly what homosexuals are, they're normal people but they just fancy the wrong sex. I reckon people would be way more supportive if we knew it was a brain deficiency, rather than thinking they're attention seeking because evidently only a few homosexuals do that.

And it's the same people that attack homosexuals that attack disabled people. It all makes sense. There are these few tards that commit gay crime, which makes all homosexuals feel negative. Maybe some proper research into it would be necessary, I mean every other possible act is labelled under some sort of stupid mental illness.

It's a clear possibility, yay they've allowed this mental illness in all US states lol, weird.

However the only argument I can think of it that the mental illnesses I know people suffer with are more of an on/off type. Homosexuals I don't think are on/off about their sexuality, or are they?

*Waits for attacks from homosexuals that can't accept this idea, not even considered it lol*


People did consider homosexuality to be a mental illness, right up until they began to study it properly. The thing is mental illnesses always come in clusters for example depression+social anxiety or anorexia+body dysmorphia. However homosexuality has no direct connections to other conditions at all. This is mentioned in 1957s Wolfenden report, which directly led to the decriminalization of homosexuality. To directly quote the report:

'...homosexuality cannot legitimately be regarded as a disease, because in many cases it is the only symptom and is compatible with full mental health in other respects.' (Wolfenden et al, 1957)
#GayMarriageInAll50States
#BattleWon
#HomophobesKillYourselves


:nyan:
Original post by ComputerMaths97
Has anyone ever considered homosexuality as a mental illness?

Someone close to me has a mental illness, and for some reason they research it tons to try and understand themselves better I guess. But they always tell me. And all it is, it's just that they're normal in most ways to everyone else other than a few aspects of their opinions and attitudes. That's exactly what homosexuals are, they're normal people but they just fancy the wrong sex. I reckon people would be way more supportive if we knew it was a brain deficiency, rather than thinking they're attention seeking because evidently only a few homosexuals do that.

And it's the same people that attack homosexuals that attack disabled people. It all makes sense. There are these few tards that commit gay crime, which makes all homosexuals feel negative. Maybe some proper research into it would be necessary, I mean every other possible act is labelled under some sort of stupid mental illness.

It's a clear possibility, yay they've allowed this mental illness in all US states lol, weird.

However the only argument I can think of it that the mental illnesses I know people suffer with are more of an on/off type. Homosexuals I don't think are on/off about their sexuality, or are they?

*Waits for attacks from homosexuals that can't accept this idea, not even considered it lol*


That's actually a very good point, we'll immediately get backlash for saying so but it makes sense, almost by definition. People will say "omG it's a life choice bitches" but seriously, the biologically correct form of sex is heterosexual. It's how our bodies are designed to work, and homosexual sex is literally going against our own biology. So homosexuality is a deference from the correct biological system, which is a disability by definition.
Original post by driftawaay
#GayMarriageInAll50States
#BattleWon
#HomophobesKillYourselves


:nyan:

Whilst I agree with the general sentiment of this message (to piss off homophobes :wink:), I think the battle is far from won. Giving blood, depression/anxiety and homelessness are still serious issues in the LGBT community.
Original post by driftawaay
#GayMarriageInAll50States
#BattleWon
#HomophobesKillYourselves


:nyan:


Nice and subtle (slight sarcasm).
I've fallen in love with you again. :sigh:
Is this always going to be a one-sided relationship?

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Original post by ComputerMaths97
Everyone congratulate me for being brave! Woo I don't care what anyone thinks, I'll happily show affection in public I don't care if it offends you!

Omg feel bad for me everyone bullies me for not being gay. I'm so brave, I deserve an award!

P.S I'm straight wahoo!!


So why are all gays I know like this about being gay?

Crazy how gays need to announce it (despite it being mostly accepted and nobody caring) and also literally don't care if people find it disgusting. Please tell me not all homosexuals are this immature and inconsiderate of others opinions! Worries me that all the homosexuals I know are really narrow-minded about opinions surrounding their sexuality, please I need to meet a homosexual not like this! Creates horrendous (and hopefully not true) stereotypes!


I know quite a few people who aren't exclusively heterosexual and none of them are like this.

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Original post by Captain Josh
That's actually a very good point, we'll immediately get backlash for saying so but it makes sense, almost by definition. People will say "omG it's a life choice bitches" but seriously, the biologically correct form of sex is heterosexual.


There is no 'biologically correct' form of sex. What does this even mean?

It's how our bodies are designed to work

(a) I don't believe our bodies were 'designed' to work in a specific way (besides evolutionary drive)

(b) even if they were, that wouldn't make it morally wrong to do things differently

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and homosexual sex is literally going against our own biology.


How so?

so homosexuality is a deference from the correct biological system,


Again, there is no 'correct biological system'.

which is a disability by definition.

That isn't the definition of a disability.


Homosexuality is not the norm. I agree. But does that mean it should be classified as a mental illness? No; there just isn't any argument. I just happen to love mostly women. Some happen to love mostly men. Some are men and some are women. What does it really matter?

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Original post by Implication
There is no 'biologically correct' form of sex. What does this even mean?

It's how our bodies are designed to work

(a) I don't believe our bodies were 'designed' to work in a specific way (besides evolutionary drive)

(b) even if they were, that wouldn't make it morally wrong to do things differently

,

How so?



Again, there is no 'correct biological system'.



That isn't the definition of a disability.


Homosexuality is not the norm. I agree. But does that mean it should be classified as a mental illness? No; there just isn't any argument. I just happen to love mostly women. Some happen to love mostly men. Some are men and some are women. What does it really matter?

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The biologically correct form of sex is the form which fulfils the purpose of the act- the form of sex which results in reproduction, which is the evolutionary point in sexual intercourse. Homosexuals go against this system, making gay sex categorically wrong. Don't take this the wrong way or anything, I personally have no problem with gay people, I'm just speaking form a scientific standpoint. And yes, the definition of a disability is a condition which causes the sufferer to be different from the majority of the species (of course this could be an evolutionary mutation, a positive thing, but I'm just saying this as an example). So homosexuality is, by definition, some sort of condition.
Original post by Captain Josh
That's actually a very good point, we'll immediately get backlash for saying so but it makes sense, almost by definition. People will say "omG it's a life choice bitches" but seriously, the biologically correct form of sex is heterosexual. It's how our bodies are designed to work, and homosexual sex is literally going against our own biology. So homosexuality is a deference from the correct biological system, which is a disability by definition.


Mhm but they can't accept it because calling something a mental illness, despite your argument, it always wrong apparently xD

Original post by Implication
There is no 'biologically correct' form of sex. What does this even mean?
(a) I don't believe our bodies were 'designed' to work in a specific way (besides evolutionary drive)
(b) even if they were, that wouldn't make it morally wrong to do things differently
How so?
Again, there is no 'correct biological system'.
That isn't the definition of a disability.
Homosexuality is not the norm. I agree. But does that mean it should be classified as a mental illness? No; there just isn't any argument. I just happen to love mostly women. Some happen to love mostly men. Some are men and some are women. What does it really matter?

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There is so many ways in which it's biologically correct I'm surprised you're pretending to not know of the argument he brings up to be honest.

There is no, excuse my lack of knowledge of specialist terms in biology, *useful to humans* advantages to homosexual sex. Yet heterosexual sex has it's obvious evolutionary/ reproductive etc advantages. That's the point he's making :smile: Homosexual sex doesn't create offspring, also homosexual sex doesn't use the bodies outer reproductive organs etc correctly If that's a way of explaining it. The penis was meant to go inside the vagina, that is one of their main uses - normal sex. I think that's all he's trying to say, we were biologically made for regular sex, so in this light homosexual sex is ignoring our biological advances in terms of reproductive organs. That's the only point he's making :smile:
Original post by Implication
I know quite a few people who aren't exclusively heterosexual and none of them are like this.

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Good, guess I'm just unlucky and am subject to a few of the rarer types of homosexuals, I'm happy to hear that!
Homosexuality was considered wrong for thousands of years and suddenly people are moral experts and anyone against it should commit suicide... Makes sense. Oh my some people have an empty head. Everyone's been confused by a few upset homosexuals lol. Social media meant they could upload videos of them upset, so all weak hearted people fall for it xD

Only takes a few passionate people to manipulate and persuade a nation of a belief, I mean look back at what created the famous World Wars...
Original post by ComputerMaths97
Mhm but they can't accept it because calling something a mental illness, despite your argument, it always wrong apparently xD



There is so many ways in which it's biologically correct I'm surprised you're pretending to not know of the argument he brings up to be honest.

There is no, excuse my lack of knowledge of specialist terms in biology, *useful to humans* advantages to homosexual sex. Yet heterosexual sex has it's obvious evolutionary/ reproductive etc advantages. That's the point he's making :smile: Homosexual sex doesn't create offspring, also homosexual sex doesn't use the bodies outer reproductive organs etc correctly If that's a way of explaining it. The penis was meant to go inside the vagina, that is one of their main uses - normal sex. I think that's all he's trying to say, we were biologically made for regular sex, so in this light homosexual sex is ignoring our biological advances in terms of reproductive organs. That's the only point he's making :smile:
Right, we all know that heterosexual sex can produce babies and homosexual sex typically can't. But my point is that this doesn't mean that heterosexual sex is 'correct' by any sensible definition of the term. In fact, it doesn't have any bearing on the morality of the situation at all (and nor its classification as not-a-mental-illness!)

I also think it is a bit unwise to attach 'meaning' and 'purpose' to things like this. Just because our evolutionary history leads us to reproduce with penises in vaginas doesn't mean that this is the objective purpose of penises haha.

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Original post by Implication
Right, we all know that heterosexual sex can produce babies and homosexual sex typically can't. But my point is that this doesn't mean that heterosexual sex is 'correct' by any sensible definition of the term. In fact, it doesn't have any bearing on the morality of the situation at all (and nor its classification as not-a-mental-illness!)

I also think it is a bit unwise to attach 'meaning' and 'purpose' to things like this. Just because our evolutionary history leads us to reproduce with penises in vaginas doesn't mean that this is the objective purpose of penises haha.

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Well It does mean that heterosexual sex is biologically correct, does that count for nothing? Is biology a bunch of lies that we shouldn't follow? Wait so the whole thing is only about morality, there's no valid reasons to allow homosexual sex other than it being the "moral" thing to do? Well it wasn't morally correct for thousands of years, so clearly moral arguments don't work because we constantly change them.

Yeah I know, penises are also used for peeing.

Look, evidently we are made for heterosexual sex, and homosexual sex is a different act wanted by very few. Which is a fair claim for it to be a mental illness. I think the only reason people disregard it as being a mental illness is because they have generally negative connotations to the term "mental illness", so are unwilling to accept it may be a mental different that humans weren't supposed to be born with.

That has nothing to do with morality, we're just saying that it may be more of a problem in a human, more than just a genetic difference. That is all :smile: Eye colour is a genetic difference based on parents' eye colours. I personally don't think sexuality is *decided* in the same way. A lot of mental illnesses are developed over time, but are more likely to occur in certain people. I'm suggesting that maybe homosexuality is the same - a preference developed over time but some are more likely to develop it than others basic on genetics. However the genetics only determine the likelihood of someone being easily persuaded against regular sex.
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