Should we allow incestuous couples to marry and adopt?

If they love each other, and are two consenting adults, then why not? The argument against it is that they produce children with genetic deficiencies - but by that logic, surely we should stop people with inheritable diseases from breeding? Even so, even if we outlawed incestuous breeding, why shouldn't they be able to adopt?

We keep being told that there is "no such thing as the traditional family", so why is it so bad for a child to have a father and mother who are also brother and sister? It's no more unnatural then having two fathers or two mothers. The idea that it's "disgusting" is purely an emotional argument, and indeed, bigotry.

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Reply 1

ridwan12

Original post by Crossedit

tbh i don't really care, do what you want. But you're still getting judged lmao.

Reply 2

silverbolt

hmmmmm, on the one hand the idea of incest seems to have become of an ick factor (despite the ludicrous amount of incest porn out there) rather than an outright stoning offence. But at the same time it still something that is not done in the mainstream.

Letting them marry - they are two consenting adults so i personally have no issue with it beyond personal dislike of the idea. So sure.

But adopt is a different matter. If people find out in regards to what this married couple is, it will make the childs life (and possibly the parents as well) extremely unpleasant. Gays have a hard enough time of it as it is. I dont think society is ready for it yet.

Reply 3

mogwai98

I'm pretty sure I have a lot of progressive views, but this is something else entirely. I do struggle to get my head around how someone can feel sexually attracted to a relative in the first place.

Reply 4

Crossedit

Original post by Man.bear.pig

against..? :colonhash:

Incestuous people. A noble people oppressed by centuries of White CIS patriarchal culture saying their love is wrong.

Reply 5

Falcatas

Anything other than letting polygamous and incestuous couples to marry is bigotry.

That being said an ideal system would be where the state is not involved in relationships at all.
Why does the government care whether I am in relationship at all?

Any legal status marriage gives can be turned into typical contractual agreements.

Reply 6

Nottie

you are meant to love your brother or your sister but not bang them!

Reply 7

Moonstruck16

Original post by I Procrastinate

wtf.
What is happening to the world.

Homo sapiens

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Reply 8

mogwai98

Original post by Crossedit

What a disgusting and pathetic person you are.

You're probably right.

Marriage fine, it's not really anyone else's business, but adoption could be harmful for the children I think. Feel free to hate me.

Reply 9

username1177050

You been watching to much game of thrones G

Reply 10

em211997

Lol we got some Lannister supporters up in here :biggrin:

Reply 11

Crossedit

Original post by mogwai98

You're probably right.

Marriage fine, it's not really anyone else's business, but adoption could be harmful for the children I think. Feel free to hate me.

We've already moved on the point where trans children are given hormone blockers to stop them growing into the wrong bodies so your views are being left in the dust.

Reply 12

LPK

Original post by Crossedit

You are on the #wrongsideofhistory

Not necessarily. Despite these topics being used as a slippery slope when addressing 'LGBT' issues, they tend to be more historical than 'progressive'. Things such as incest and polygamy were more common throughout history, whereas Western society has socially evolved to restrict such things. Therefore, it's not necessarily a clear-cut case of 'this is where society is going', as that ignores the fact that society, as we know it today, evolved from such practices anyway.

If we take the story of Adam and Eve: She was made from the rib of Adam, effectively making her almost like a clone of him (with obvious differences). They reproduced, despite this supposed genetic link, and would then have had children who were required to have brother-sister marriages to then reproduce further. And so on.

As for their future legal status: Indifferent. I would be interested in hearing the objective arguments from either side, but these conversations always end up just being about the 'ick' factor. It does seem somewhat unusual that the law is worried about the risk of genetic mutations/anomalies from inbreeding, but is not worried about similar genetical inheritance from those with life-threatening diseases, even when that likelihood of transmission is significantly higher than the risk of deformity from inbreeding.

I doubt it'll be legalised, though. At most, it'll probably just exist within random pockets of the internet.

Reply 13

em211997

No but in all seriousness why did you even start this post if you already had strong views on it, attacking anyone who speaks against you. Unlike homosexuality most people would agree that incest is wrong and I doubt that will change anytime soon so get over it.

Reply 14

Falcatas

Original post by mogwai98

You're probably right.

Marriage fine, it's not really anyone else's business, but adoption could be harmful for the children I think. Feel free to hate me.

That is fine because adoption agencies could reject couples they don't think would be good carers.

Reply 15

Crossedit

Original post by LPK

That's nonsense frankly. Can you give any examples of incest or polyamory being common in Western European Christian society? They were restricted and condemned in exactly the same way homosexuality was, as perversions. Biblical stories are a poor example compared to the actual laws of these societies. The fact that forms of homosexuality has been common in some cultures in the past is often used as argument in favour of LGBT. The Ancient Greeks loved to **** young boys for example, which is reminiscent of the early LGBTs affiliation with groups such as NAMBLA and other pedophiles.

Reply 16

mogwai98

Original post by Falcatas

That is fine because adoption agencies could reject couples they don't think would be good carers.

True, though I meant more in terms of the bullying the kids would be subjected to if their classmates found out their adoptive dad was also their uncle (or whatever). As someone said upthread, I'm not sure society is ready for it.

Reply 17

miser

I have nothing against incest. If people want to do it, go for it.

Reply 18

Crossedit

Original post by ridwan12

sigh.

You didnt really conceal the fact that you are a troll to well.

I'm not exactly trying to hide it tbf. Just having a bit of fun.

Reply 19

em211997

Original post by Crossedit

And this is why I will laugh when the western world collapses.

So you basically don't care about others opinions or the concept that they may be valid you just want to attack people who have different views to you... Ok then lol continue :hand: