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Why do men object to being objectified?

I mean *****, I don't see it!

Firstly they go shirtless in non-nude beaches showing off their chiseled abs. Secondly, a lot of them wear shorts showing their legs clearly wanting to get attention.

I'm saying this because I once asked a guy why he's wearing shorts, he said because he wants to show off his legs, so I assume ALL of you straight guys are the same.

However the weird thing is, many of them get uncomfortable when gay guys hit on them or talk about them like sex objects. Some of them even have this reflex where any time they sense a gay presence, their mouths start uttering the words " I'm okay with gay guys as long as they don't hit on me".

Is it just me or are ALL straight men being hypocritical and contradictory?
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Men don't complain about being objectified because it's not a real thing. Finding women attractive for their looks is OKAY. men are objectified to the same extent, and it is OKAY.

Why is liking this image perfectly innocent:




but liking this image is disgusting and dirty:





We live in an insidious society evidenced by our double think over this.
Original post by KingStannis
Men don't complain about being objectified because it's not a real thing. Finding women attractive for their looks is OKAY. men are objectified to the same extent, and it is OKAY....

Well if it makes you feel better, I do think the both ( the pictures) are perfectly acceptable. However women ARE more objectified than men, especially when talking about talented and successful people. Though I think this is starting to change little by little.

Also I do think that there is a difference between objectifying something that's supposed to be objectified (naked person on a magazine) and objectifying something that wasn't intended to be (normal everyday women wearing a shorter skirt because it's summer).

I do agree with you on the fact that it's now a bit wonky because of all this feminist stuff and we have that double standard.

PS: I didn't intend for the thread to be that serious lol, it was more a parody thing.
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I'm so happy this thread was created, congrats OP :')
Original post by louieee
I'm so happy this thread was created, congrats OP :':wink:

You're welcome lol
Original post by gagafacea1
Well if it makes you feel better, I do think the both ( the pictures) are perfectly acceptable. However women ARE more objectified than men, especially when talking about talented and successful people. Though I think this is starting to change little by little.

Also I do think that there is a difference between objectifying something that's supposed to be objectified (naked person on a magazine) and objectifying something that wasn't intended to be (normal everyday women wearing a shorter skirt because it's summer).

I do agree with you on the fact that it's now a bit wonky because of all this feminist stuff and we have that double standard.

PS: I didn't intend for the thread to be that serious lol, it was more a parody thing.


"supposed to be objectified", nah I find attractive what i find attractive, and I'll be damned anyone tells me my sexuality is wrong.
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Original post by gagafacea1
You're welcome lol



I spent ages arguing on that other one like over a week ago... I'm surprised to see it resurfaced tbh I thought I'd atually managed to educate people on there
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Original post by KingStannis
"supposed to be objectified", nah I find attractive what i find attractive, and I'll be damned anyone tells me my sexuality is wrong.



how can someone actually manage to confuse attraction with objectification though omfg that's almost laughable
Original post by KingStannis
"supposed to be objectified", nah I find attractive what i find attractive, and I'll be damned anyone tells me my sexuality is wrong.

Just like what louie said, attraction =! objectification.
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Original post by gagafacea1
I mean bitch, I don't see it!

Firstly they go shirtless in non-nude beaches showing off their chiseled abs. Secondly, a lot of them wear shorts showing their legs clearly wanting to get attention.

I'm saying this because I once asked a guy why he's wearing shorts, he said because he wants to show off his legs, so I assume ALL of you straight guys are the same.

However the weird thing is, many of them get uncomfortable when gay guys hit on them or talk about them like sex objects. Some of them even have this reflex where any time they sense a gay presence, their mouths start uttering the words " I'm okay with gay guys as long as they don't hit on me".

Is it just me or are ALL straight men being hypocritical and contradictory?


Objectify me all you want. I'll take it as a compliment.
Original post by gagafacea1
I mean bitch, I don't see it!

Firstly they go shirtless in non-nude beaches showing off their chiseled abs. Secondly, a lot of them wear shorts showing their legs clearly wanting to get attention.

I'm saying this because I once asked a guy why he's wearing shorts, he said because he wants to show off his legs, so I assume ALL of you straight guys are the same.

However the weird thing is, many of them get uncomfortable when gay guys hit on them or talk about them like sex objects. Some of them even have this reflex where any time they sense a gay presence, their mouths start uttering the words " I'm okay with gay guys as long as they don't hit on me".

Is it just me or are ALL straight men being hypocritical and contradictory?


It's no different to women. Women dress in part to attract men, but are perturbed when they attract the wrong type of attention from "creepy pervs" (i.e. undesirable, unsuitable mates). Men also occasionally dress to attract women, but are also perturbed when they attract the wrong type of attention from gay men.

By the way, most straight men who wear shorts and go shirtless aren't doing it to look attractive, regardless of what your beshorted friend said. We do it for comfort in hot weather. Personally I do sometimes like to wear skinny T-shirts or whatever to feel sexy, but then I am bisexual.
Original post by louieee
how can someone actually manage to confuse attraction with objectification though omfg that's almost laughable


Scenario: I see a woman on a lads mag, i am attracted to that woman, i don't think about her thoughts and feelings or anything--classical conception of objectification. Under this example for objectification, what I have done is find a woman attractive and not consider the other things about her. That's my sexuality; i don't go around thinking about what's going on in stranger's brains and i find women attractive. Therefore, my sexual attraction there is defined as objectification. Okay then.

In response to that, either objectification doesn't exist or doesn't matter.
Original post by KingStannis
Scenario: I see a woman on a lads mag, i am attracted to that woman, i don't think about her thoughts and feelings or anything--classical conception of objectification. Under this example for objectification, what I have done is find a woman attractive and not consider the other things about her. That's my sexuality; i don't go around thinking about what's going on in stranger's brains and i find women attractive. Therefore, my sexual attraction there is defined as objectification. Okay then.
In response to that, either objectification doesn't exist or doesn't matter.



That's complete bull**** and you know it
Original post by scrotgrot
It's no different to women. Women dress in part to attract men, but are perturbed when they attract the wrong type of attention from "creepy pervs" (i.e. undesirable, unsuitable mates). Men also occasionally dress to attract women, but are also perturbed when they attract the wrong type of attention from gay men.

By the way, most straight men who wear shorts and go shirtless aren't doing it to look attractive, regardless of what your beshorted friend said. We do it for comfort in hot weather. Personally I do sometimes like to wear skinny T-shirts or whatever to feel sexy, but then I am bisexual.


But we are, i think, completely happy with that by product.
Women are objectified more because male and female sexuality is obviously different. In a capitalist society with no restrictions on sex, women will be objectified, because it makes money.

Your analogy is bad because straight men wouldn't mind being hit on by women. Being hit on by other men though is uncomfortable because the idea of having sex with men is disgusting :h:
Original post by louieee
That's complete bull**** and you know it


So I've shown that what is called "objectification" is nothing more than basic attraction at work. You have to either accept that "objectification" is okay, or that objectification is bad, and by logical extension, my sexuality as I outlined it is also bad.
Original post by KingStannis
So I've shown that what is called "objectification" is nothing more than basic attraction at work. You have to either accept that "objectification" is okay, or that objectification is bad, and by logical extension, my sexuality as I outlined it is also bad.



you need to realise that objectification literally means you see them as an object rather than a human...in which case, you should just stick to porn and maybe get a sex doll? because attraction is nowhere near similar to refusing to treat someone as person
Original post by scrotgrot
It's no different to women. Women dress in part to attract men, but are perturbed when they attract the wrong type of attention from "creepy pervs" (i.e. undesirable, unsuitable mates). Men also occasionally dress to attract women, but are also perturbed when they attract the wrong type of attention from gay men.
By the way, most straight men who wear shorts and go shirtless aren't doing it to look attractive, regardless of what your beshorted friend said. We do it for comfort in hot weather. Personally I do sometimes like to wear skinny T-shirts or whatever to feel sexy, but then I am bisexual.

lol that was a parody of another thread. I'm so sorry. That friend is made up. I'm sure you noticed the blatant generalization.

Still doesn't invalidate your point. I see it and I agree with you. Though a lot of times those "creepy pervs" are the same people who are "perturbed" by the attention of gay men.
Original post by KingStannis
Men don't complain about being objectified because it's not a real thing. Finding women attractive for their looks is OKAY. men are objectified to the same extent, and it is OKAY.

Why is liking this image perfectly innocent:




but liking this image is disgusting and dirty:





We live in an insidious society evidenced by our double think over this.


It's certainly worth noting that the way to objectify men is not, or at least not solely, about looks. For example, an action hero is quite as objectified as his skimpily dressed female co-lead.

Although it's supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, even the men in your photo are wearing bow ties and shirt cuffs, which connote a high social position, and leather trousers, which connote a life of rugged hard work. Even they are not being objectified solely through their looks.
Original post by Crossedit
Women are objectified more because male and female sexuality is obviously different. In a capitalist society with no restrictions on sex, women will be objectified, because it makes money.
Your analogy is bad because straight men wouldn't mind being hit on by women. Being hit on by other men though is uncomfortable because the idea of having sex with men is disgusting :h:

:h: uwu

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