ISIS flag guy did nothing illegal

Shoot him and say "We thought he was a suicide bomber, obviously could not take a chance with him only 500 metres or so away from Downing Street"

seriously? after everything ISIS have done, walking around like that, after the tunisa attack and close to the aniversary of 7/7 is meant as a threat. it is not "free speech". that flag is frightening and extremely psychologically distressing to the public. we have seen it when person after person are beheaded or murdered in other barbaric manners. ISIS are gaining ground. they threaten to come here and slaughter us. wearing the ISIS flag isn't hate speech? I beg to differ. It is exactly that. that flag is a symbol of terror and murder, against us. he should have been taken into custody and his home and computer should have been searched, definitely. you do not know what could have been found. this is not one for "political correctness". we should not allow this. what next?

edit: also i'm very surprised this did not cause more of a commotion on the street (at least, that hasn't been reported.) this could have lead to a lot of trouble right there and then. perhaps that's why he took a little kid with him as some sort of 'protection'.

Its funny because the people arguing against the right to have this flag (or do whatever he did) would also have been arguing for the rights of the victims of the Charlie Hebdo attack victims on the basis of freedom of speech, its evidence that they have no moral foundation, but instead just want to attack islam at any chance, you must atlas be consistent.

Friendly reminder that you live in a 21st century international megapolis, a pinnacle of civilisation, developed over the sweat and tears of lawmakers, thinkers and philsophers for thousands of years.

Condoning murderers and rapists is not the same thing as condoning mockery

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So all muslims are murderers and rapists? you sure?

So all muslims are murderers and rapists? you sure?

This thread is weird because:

1. The guy wasn't arrested. Everyone knows it was legal. Yep. Insert freedom of expression rant here.
2. You're criticising people for displaying their views, whilst defending someone else's right to display his. Thoughts?

Have to agree

until we actually declare war on ISIS and make the showing of their memorabilia illegal then he's done nothing wrong and should be free to flag wave to his little hearts content

"Wearing, carrying or displaying of an emblem or flag, by itself, is not an offence unless; the way in which, or the circumstance in which, the emblem is worn, carried or displayed is such as to cause reasonable suspicion that the person is a supporter or member of a proscribed organisation.

"While support of and membership of ISIS is unlawful it is not a criminal offence to advocate the creation of an independent state."

A Home Office spokesman said: “ISIS is a proscribed group. Showing signs you are a supporter of that group is an offence.

"It was an operational decision and we cannot comment on individual cases."

Actually guys....

s13(1) of the Terrorism Act 2000

13Uniform.(1)A person in a public place commits an offence if he—(a)wears an item of clothing, or(b)wears, carries or displays an article,in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation.

From the statement regarding this incident:



I'd say it was enough to show resonable suspicion that he was a supporter of ISIS. And according to the HOme Office ISIS is a proscribed organisation.

OR, Public Order Offence. (from the statement regarding this incident.):



I'd say the the flag is a "sign" or "visible representation" of a threatening group, is viewed as a threat in itself after everything we have seen them do on the news whilst carrying this flag, and the timing of this incident, this flag would likely cause alarm or distress to the public.

Finally:

They don't want to criticise the police openly. The guy's details would have been obtained when the police stopped him, and the CPS, police, Home Office and Security Service can make a determination about whether to put him under surveillance, or proceed with a charge after the fact, etc

2. You're criticising people for displaying their views, whilst defending someone else's right to display his. Thoughts?

Now imagine if you will someone walking around London waving a Nazi flag around during WW2. How long do you think they would be alive for?.

Friendly reminder that you live in a 21st century international megapolis, a pinnacle of civilisation, developed over the sweat and tears of lawmakers, thinkers and philsophers for thousands of years.

We have freedom of expression and we recognise the fact that different people will have different opinions, and although they might be abhorrive and digusting, they have equal weighing before the law just like any other opinion.


It is not hate speech to wear an ISIS flag;- hate speech intentionally seeks to offend a certain person or group of people, meaning this guy has a right to believe that killing all infidels is right, but not threaten any directly with death.

I am saddenned by people on social media trying to attack the police for not arresting a man with an opinion not doing any harm, or worse, call for arresting that guy for treason: for they don't respect the delicacy of our law system and our government's philosophical standing, and just how much work it took for us historically to reach a stage in a civilisation where we overcome our emotions and respect people's right to free speech rather than killing them for it. The latter, by the way, is what the Caliphate would do, and we are not them.

I despise what you say but I will defend to death your right to say it