Most people did, that's why England is associated with the posh accent. Unfortunately nowadays it is a minority / only people living in the wealthy south areas with this accent.

No, they didn't.

RP originated in public schools, where it was taught precisely to mask regional dialects. It is identified with England so strongly because it was adopted by the BBC.

Reply 64

flibber

Original post by TimmonaPortella

No, they didn't.

RP originated in public schools, where it was taught precisely to mask regional dialects. It is identified with England so strongly because it was adopted by the BBC.

Isn't the BBC more tolerant of regional dialects these days?

Reply 65

TimmonaPortella

Original post by flibber

Isn't the BBC more tolerant of regional dialects these days?

These days, yes, but the association is already there now.

On the other hand, if you think about their major exports -- news, doctor who, top gear, etc -- there's a lot of more 'proper' English used in them.

Reply 66

**snowflake**

Original post by TimmonaPortella

No, they didn't.

RP originated in public schools, where it was taught precisely to mask regional dialects. It is identified with England so strongly because it was adopted by the BBC.

Explained in this link

http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/case-studies/received-pronunciation/

Reply 67

lustawny

Original post by Alyssa_kassar

It's called slang.

That's what he said:

Reply 68

queen-bee

I need elocution lessons

Reply 69

flibber

Original post by TimmonaPortella

There have always been different levels of speech (standard and non-standard, formal and colloquial, not to mention the provinicial differences), so I don't see how the problem the OP is raising is very recent.

P.S. If you were a Saxon landlord living in the year 1150, and you saw your tenants ignore the grammatical genders (Old English had 3 genders), would you have scolded them?

Reply 70

TimmonaPortella

Original post by flibber

I'm not sure what your point is. I haven't done anything but give an explanation as to the origins of RP English, since OP was apparently confused.

Reply 71

flibber

Original post by TimmonaPortella

I'm not sure what your point is. I haven't done anything but give an explanation as to the origins of RP English, since OP was apparently confused.

1. The OP used the word 'anymore', which implied that until now or recently, people (I assume he meant the majority) were able to speak Received Pronunciation. What I meant was that the OP got that wrong given that differences in dialects have always existed. Also I think he seems to be mixing up dialect and accent.

2. I asked you that question because you like to insist on standard grammatical practice.

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Reply 72

TimmonaPortella

Original post by flibber

2. I asked you that question because you like to insist on standard grammatical practice.

I don't insist on anything for anyone else, though your usage of grammar may cause me to make certain inferences about you. The advice I gave on grammar in the thread you're thinking of was given on the assumption that people reading a thread about grammar would want to improve theirs. Incidentally, I should have thought it more appropriate for you to take this up with me there, if you wished to, rather than to derail a thread about accents.

Reply 73

Rakas21

I actually agree OP.

I'm poor but have been told i speak posh for using proper language, namely calling my mother "mother".

Reply 74

diamondluck

mwahah I can switch between normal/posh/sort of chavvy depending on who I'm talking to but i don't know most of the ultra chav words so have to use urban dictionary.. :shame:
you look kind of like a snob if you speak posh to a chav.

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Reply 75

NightmareDoll

The pretentiousness is real.

Reply 76

flibber

Original post by TimmonaPortella

I've sent a visitor message to keep the thread on topic.

Reply 77

Profesh

Original post by I extort Hijabis

Aren't you the guy that posed nude on a thread? :rofl:

Semi-nude; when it was all the rage. And before your time, evidently.

And you asked girls to rate you out of ten?

I've no such misgivings regarding my physical appearance; hence being vain enough to pose semi-nude on TSR's 'Back Room', in 2008, at the request of another member.

Anyway, who gives a ****?

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Reply 78

RobML

Dang urban yoofs and their hip jibberjabber

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Reply 79

zigglr

Original post by TimmonaPortella

No, they didn't.

RP originated in public schools, where it was taught precisely to mask regional dialects. It is identified with England so strongly because it was adopted by the BBC.

It doesn't matter. Even if you do want to greet someone with 'are you alright', saying 'yrite' or even 'ite' is not how you say these words. These people are not even speaking basic english properly, which they learn in year 2, and it is quite worrying