Fixing Benefits Britain

smc2010

I am glad the Government wants to cut benefits, as I would like to think that people will finally get off their butts and work. But - have benefits been given out for so long that people feel entitled to them and will whinge and complain that they aren't given them?

I'm interested to hear everyone's opinions on benefits. My own beliefs are that: If you're an immigrant you should have been working (legally) in the country for five years before you are entitled to any benefits and you should only be allowed to claim benefits for a maximum of 1 year. After 1 year, you're on your own. I believe that there should also be a cap on UK nationals claiming JSA. I'm sure some will agree and some will disagree.

But one thing we might all agree on, is that the problem we've got in this country is that people see a life on benefits as a real alternative to going to work.

Would love to hear opinions - and please your replies polite, considerate and non-biased guys :-)

Thanks!

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Original post by Raichu 99

Clearly you know nothing mate

Most people dont sit on their butts when theyre umeployed

Working 5 years before claiming jsa? Lol bro. So what happens if you get fired and you havent clocked up 5 years?

Go on the streets and sell drugs to get by?

Yet another middle class kid with a rich mummy and daddy who watches too much bull**** on tv like benefit street

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Reply 3

felamaslen

I quite like the idea of limiting benefits for migrants for the first few years of their stay, because it may encourage a relaxation of the rules regarding getting a tier 2 visa. For example, if there is no prospect of benefits being paid to a recent migrant, then who will care what kind of job they are getting? Right now you need a certain salary and skill level.

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Raichu 99

Original post by smc2010

Your post is full of anger and hate. You seem bitter. If you cannot discuss this without acting like this, please refrain from posting in this thread.

I saw those edits brah, i saw them :hand:

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Reply 5

lucaf

Original post by smc2010

But one thing we might all agree on, is that the problem we've got in this country is that people see a life on benefits as a real alternative to going to work.

Except there really isn't. The daily mail likes to highlight the minority of people who actually choose not to work, but in reality the majority of benefits are paid to people already in work and most people out of work try to get a new job rather than stay on benefits.

Reply 6

Quady

Original post by smc2010

I am glad the Government wants to cut benefits,

How'd you work that out?

Most benefits have a triple lock ensuring they increase by the highest of inflation, average earnings rises or 2%.

Reply 7

Quady

Original post by smc2010

But one thing we might all agree on, is that the problem we've got in this country is that people see a life on benefits as a real alternative to going to work.

I know, my dad has been on benefits for the last 14 years and my mum for the last six.

Looks like they'll be on benefits for another 10-30 years...

Reply 8

smc2010

Original post by Quady

I know, my dad has been on benefits for the last 14 years and my mum for the last six.

Looks like they'll be on benefits for another 10-30 years...

ok I'm sure there is a good reason for them being on benefits for that long period of time?

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Quady

Original post by smc2010

ok I'm sure there is a good reason for them being on benefits for that long period of time?

Well they haven't died so why would they come off benefits?

Reply 10

smc2010

Original post by Quady

Well they haven't died so why would they come off benefits?

Ok, so your parents sound like the kind i'm talking about. They've become accustomed to a life on benefits and don't want to work? Is that what you're saying?

Reply 11

Thisguy11

There are people who cant even get enough food,
cutting befits is not the solution, we need to organise

ALSO the cutting of taxes when "we are all in this together" is a load of b***s***

Reply 12

Quady

Original post by smc2010

Ok, so your parents sound like the kind i'm talking about. They've become accustomed to a life on benefits and don't want to work? Is that what you're saying?

Totally.

Most welfare claimants are like that, almost all claim for years and die on benefits.

Yet their benefits increase every year and no government has the guts to do anything about it.

Reply 13

smc2010

Original post by Quady

Totally.

Most welfare claimants are like that, almost all claim for years and die on benefits.

Yet their benefits increase every year and no government has the guts to do anything about it.

you're being facetious. Not every welfare claimant is like that at all :smile:

Reply 14

MatureStudent36

Original post by smc2010

Ok, so your parents sound like the kind i'm talking about. They've become accustomed to a life on benefits and don't want to work? Is that what you're saying?

Not quite. If you're long term unemployed ( over 12 months) it's very difficult to get a job.

Reply 15

Quady

Original post by smc2010

you're being facetious. Not every welfare claimant is like that at all :smile:

Really?

Pretty sure the vast majority are tbh.

Reply 16

smc2010

Original post by Quady

Really?

Pretty sure the vast majority are tbh.

Well if that's your opinion you're more than entitled to it. I know several people who are exactly as you describe and it's quite depressing. I'd like to think that not everyone is like that...

Reply 17

Quady

Original post by MatureStudent36

Not quite. If you're long term unemployed ( over 12 months) it's very difficult to get a job.

And also where are the incentives?

My parents draw a private income of £40k or so then get over £10k in welfare. Why bother trying to go back to work? They own their own house, its a pretty comfy life for them.

Reply 18

smc2010

Original post by Maker

You are talking out of the end where the sun don't shine.

Have you ever been in the real world or do you live in some bubble and force fed right wing BS?

Oh shut up. You wouldn't say that to my face.

I'm done with this forum. It seems to be a place for people to abuse others because they lack the guts to in real life

Reply 19

domonict

Original post by Quady

My parents draw a private income of £40k or so then get over £10k in welfare. Why bother trying to go back to work? They own their own house, its a pretty comfy life for them.