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i wish i had a foreskin...

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Reply 80
Original post by driftawaay
They are not even remotely similar. Cutting off a girls clitoris so that she cannot have an orgasm is not the same as cutting off foreskin. The male equivalent of FGM would be cutting off the entire head of the penis so please stop embarrassing yourself. Its not cute.
Also, the number of women who would voluntarily have their clitorsis cut off is virtually zero. Bye.


Hahahaha, **** off back to tumblr you social justice warrior. I merely exposed a hypocritical case of double standards among present society (which you quite perfectly portrayed), I didn't say one is worse than the other--just that they're both bad.

You can keep thinking that you, a female, are right over the entire NHS on a /male/ health issue in your little deluded world. Do let us know when you get off your pretentious high-horse and stop thinking that your opinions are factual. Just because you've had a few penises inside you doesn't make you an expert in the field.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
That's awful.


I wasn't serious - I was just trying to frame the level of ridiculousness that the person that said "circumcision is like an ear piercing" was giving off
Original post by Elcor
Hahahaha, **** off back to tumblr you social justice warrior. I merely exposed a hypocritical case of double standards among present society (which you quite perfectly portrayed), I didn't say one is worse than the other--just that they're both bad.

You can keep thinking that you, a female, are right over the entire NHS on a /male/ health issue in your little deluded world. Do let us know when you get off your pretentious high-horse and stop thinking that your opinions are factual. Just because you've had a few penises inside you doesn't make you an expert in the field.


Never been on Tumblr, but I love that you quoted my profile, aw, it warms my heart.

On that last point, no thanks.

Try again
Reply 83
Why do you wish it?
Original post by zippity.doodah
I wasn't serious - I was just trying to frame the level of ridiculousness that the person that said "circumcision is like an ear piercing" was giving off


oh rite lol
Original post by Elcor
Hahahaha, **** off back to tumblr you social justice warrior. I merely exposed a hypocritical case of double standards among present society (which you quite perfectly portrayed), I didn't say one is worse than the other--ju
You can keep thinking that you, a female, are right over the entire NHS on a /male/ health issue in your little deluded world. Do let us know when you get off your pretentious high-horse and stop thinking that your opinions are factual. Just because you've had a few penises inside you doesn't make you an expert in the field.

That last sentence though,talk about escalation.
Reply 86
Original post by Kadak
That last sentence though,talk about escalation.


lmao she pissed me off with her self-righteous and fallacious argument, sorry
Original post by Tourminator
So does that mean if you both end up having a son as a child you will force them against their own will to have part of their sexual organ to be cut off? I think that's absolutely sick and the fact that you're both female just makes it horrendously worse.

If foreskin is so bad why does nature intend that all males have one then? It's primarily a physical barrier to protect the whole penis. The whole point of sex is procreation not so the female can enjoy it as long as possible. If you want a guy to last longer then there are plenty of other natural and ethical ways to train a male to do so. If you feel that circumcision is necessary then why don't you wait until the son reaches the age of consent (age 16) and then you as a mother can ask the son if he wants it. That way you're acting more democratic and it doesn't breach your own son's personal autonomy.


Yes, if I ever have a son, he will be circumcised as soon as the doctors are willing to do it. This isn't just for the reasons you mention but because it's a lot healthier. Uncircumcised baby boys have a lot more medical problems (for instance urinary tract infections) than circumcised ones, and the same goes for children, adolescents and adults. As someone once said, if an injection was invented that has as many benefits as routine infant circumcision, it would be mandatory.

So no, there's no way I'd want my son to wait until he was 16 to be circumcised. That's just cruel!
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
What has that got to do with the NHS and circumcision?

Anyway on their webpages you can find this as a reason against it.

"
Reduced sensitivity an uncircumcised penis is more sensitive than a circumcised penis, meaning that circumcised men may experience less pleasure during sex."



agreed


That's a classic non-sequitur. Yes, circumcision makes the penis less sensitive. But no, it doesn't make sex less enjoyable for men. On the contrary, it means it takes them a lot longer to climax, which means there's more of a build-up for them, so when they cum it's a lot more intense.
Original post by MagicNMedicine

Being circumcised is also more hygenic and looks cleaner and neater (IMO). I've never heard a girl say she actively prefers uncircumcised guys. Girls either seem to say they don't mind either or they prefer circumcised guys.

I guess the best of both worlds would be to have a nice supple foreskin that easily rolls all the way back so the guy can leave it retracted and see what its like to be circumcised or roll it up and enjoy having a foreskin.


Your first paragraph explains why it's better for guys to be circumcised (most girls prefer it that way or don't care; very few want the skin still on it).

Your second would be true were it not for the fact that actually cutting off the foreskin rather than temporarily rolling it back allows the glans to dry out and the skin become tougher, which is what makes circumcised guys' penises less sensitive so they last so much longer. It's that, and not just the hotter look and better hygiene, that makes us prefer the skin taken off.
I genuinely feel awful for guys without a foreskin who aren't happy like that, nobody should make the decision to cut that off you at birth it's borderline barbaric.
Original post by EmmaBurton
That's a classic non-sequitur. Yes, circumcision makes the penis less sensitive. But no, it doesn't make sex less enjoyable for men. On the contrary, it means it takes them a lot longer to climax, which means there's more of a build-up for them, so when they cum it's a lot more intense.


See scrotgot's post.

It makes it less sensitive so sex may be less enjoyable. It's my body not someone elses to decide. Foreskin does have uses and if you want go into detail it does feel different when the head is stimulated with a foreskin and without it. So no foreskin = less variety. So just from my won experience masturbating I would rather have a foreskin.
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Reply 92
Original post by EmmaBurton
Your first paragraph explains why it's better for guys to be circumcised (most girls prefer it that way or don't care; very few want the skin still on it).


Firstly, how about showing us some actual statistics from a poll of what females prefer, rather than what you and your friends think. Secondly, it doesn't matter whatsoever what the partner of the male prefers, it's his ****ing penis. It would become a national outrage if doctors started offering parents the option of cutting off baby girls' labia just because it's cleaner and it's more aesthetically pleasing to guys. Any real feminist would be appalled at you for your barbaric opinion.

With reference to Table 1 from this source, you can see that circumcised men are actually slightly more likely to carry an STI than uncircumcised men, so your hygiene argument goes out the window there. Circumcision should only be for medical reasons, such as phimosis or a melanoma on the foreskin for example. Otherwise it is literally unnecessary.

Original post by EmmaBurton
That's a classic non-sequitur. Yes, circumcision makes the penis less sensitive. But no, it doesn't make sex less enjoyable for men. On the contrary, it means it takes them a lot longer to climax, which means there's more of a build-up for them, so when they cum it's a lot more intense.


How much more intense? How much longer do they last? How much more enjoyable? You're a bit of a lost cause, aren't you...

Original post by EmmaBurton
So no, there's no way I'd want my son to wait until he was 16 to be circumcised. That's just cruel!


From that same source earlier you can see that less than 16% of Brits are circumcised, so stop acting like having a foreskin is a disease or something. :smile:
Original post by EmmaBurton
Your first paragraph explains why it's better for guys to be circumcised (most girls prefer it that way or don't care; very few want the skin still on it).



How about I pressure you into Vaginoplasty for your ****ing ugly vagina? Lets be honest. Most women's vagina's look terrible. They should all have a Vaginoplasty for the porn star look to please their man.
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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
See scrotgot's post.

It makes it less sensitive so sex may be less enjoyable. It's my body not someone elses to decide. Foreskin does have uses and if you want go into detail it does feel different when the head is stimulated with a foreskin and without it. So no foreskin = less variety. So just from my won experience masturbating I would rather have a foreskin.


Circumcision grew in popularity in the Victorian era partly as a deterrent to masturbation. So have some self respect and leave your wiener alone. If you want to cum, get a girlfriend. If you can't or won't, hold it in. By getting you circumcised, your parents helped you by making it that little bit harder and less rewarding. You can do the rest. No excuses!
Original post by EmmaBurton
Yes, if I ever have a son, he will be circumcised as soon as the doctors are willing to do it. This isn't just for the reasons you mention but because it's a lot healthier. Uncircumcised baby boys have a lot more medical problems (for instance urinary tract infections) than circumcised ones, and the same goes for children, adolescents and adults. As someone once said, if an injection was invented that has as many benefits as routine infant circumcision, it would be mandatory.

So no, there's no way I'd want my son to wait until he was 16 to be circumcised. That's just cruel!


Well since 80% of the male world population is uncircumcised and the planet is at an all time high in terms of population, I highly doubt that being circumcised is a lot healthier. If there really was an epidemic of young babies suffering from urinary tract infections, these issues would without a doubt be on the news which they're not! Like all hygienic responsible adults, if you look after your baby well and make sure you wash him properly he will easily be fine. If having a foreskin was so harmful to the point perhaps which he couldn't have a baby, then why are males born with them? Circumcision is just not within the realm of natural selection.

The foreskin has a function. It contains many specialized nerves on it's underside. When the foreskin is moved up and down it is very pleasurable. Circumcised men have lost this ability to masturbate easily as there is no gliding effect. Circumcised men often have to resort to artificial lubrication in masturbation and sex. See here for the function of the foreskin:
http://geocities.com/painfulquestioning/naturalresources


Health benefits to circumcision is mostly myth. Worldwide only 20% of men get cut. 2/3 of these are Muslims. In Australia and Canada, the rate is down to 10%. Britain France, Germany, Italy have rates near zero. Some studies point to a mild health benefit. But it really isn't sufficient to cut of a healthy body part that has a good function. The fact is that being intact causes no problems, so why do it? You can see the answers to the myths here: http://pharmtips.com/2008/11/27/dispelling-myths-about-circumcision/
Reply 96
So for me as a happy owner of a foreskin I view involuntary circumcision as an abomination. Trouble is it has been allowed for so long and is so ingrained in religious dogma that it's impossible to confront. I hope however a day comes where this is put a stop to.
Reply 97
Original post by driftawaay
No sweetie, it would not be like removing your earlobes. That would serve no purpose while removing the foreskin has actual benefits. Removing your earlobes wouldnt be problematic if it had benefits or if they were generally perceived as ugly and improved your appearance if you had them removed.


The "benefits" are retarded. Cleaner? How hard is it to wash your penis? Lower STD risk? Minimal and controversial for a start but how hard is it to wear a condom anyway? USA STD statistics are higher than UK STD statistics and USA practices circumcision nationwide.
I wish i could have a boyfriend with a foreskin.

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Original post by EmmaBurton
Circumcised looks hot :-). Seriously, it's like it's permanently erect, with the glans always on show. Yum!


thats what the girls tell me :smile:

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