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Worried about a Job after Graduation

I’m an international student. I scored a 60.75 in my second year and pretty much had whatever "fun" I could in my second year. 2+ hours in the gym and partying. Whatever you could imagine. Being an asian student, you could say I’m academically gifted; or I would like to believe so. I have got a plan of action and would like to adapt the same. And I know following the regime/setting my mind, I can achieve a good first class as well, in order to get my degree an average of first class overall. Just had a question in mind that whether I’ll be able to get a good graduate job with a first class? I know British and European students can. Its just that I would like some good work experience before I go for my MBA/Masters. I’m currently pursuing BSc Management specialising in International Business Economics from University of Manchester. Any help from any experienced student would be appreciated.
Forgot to mention I'm currently a summer intern at Ernst and Young in their international tax department. Before that I've accumulated more than 2 years' worth of work experience full time as well part time. Hope this helps.
(edited 8 years ago)
Of course you can get a good job with a 1st class business degree from Manchester, you are doing better than most people, trust me, lol just get work experience and you will be able to get a good job with your degree! And yeah you definitely need a couple of years work experience before going on to do an MBA!
Well yes, but this is kind of the wrong question and is a misconception a lot of international students have.

You aren't going to just get a job on the back of a strong academic performance at university.

What academic career do you want? How much have you researched the career? How much have you worked on developing your personal competencies so you will be an attractive candidate at university. Yes it will be good to have a first class degree but you won't be the only graduate with a first from a good university so don't rely on that as your main selling point.

Obviously it may be easier in your home country: I am talking about the UK labour market here. After finishing your course you will only be able to stay in the UK for 4 months, unless you can get a Tier 2 general work visa for which you will need an employer to sponsor you.
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As above - your main concern will be that as an International student, your student visa will not allow you to remain in the UK and work after you graduate. You will need to return to your home country and apply for a working visa - which unfortunately have become quite difficult to get hold of in recent years.

You really need to be exploring pre-MBA working opportunities in your home country,so your employment prospects there are most significant for your future MBA/Masters plans.

Having said that, a straight Masters won't require the professional experience usually expected for an MBA. It might also be worth looking at going straight from your undergrad to a Masters without working experience.
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Like Klix88 said, you will require a working visa to obtain work in the UK. Also a first is an excellent qualification to obtain however, just academics is not going to make you stand out from the other candidates with a first AND with work experience. From my own experience working in industry I have seen candidates with a 2:1 and work experience get a job over someone that has a first and no work experience, so companies don't just want someone who is academically brilliant, they want someone that has experience working in companies and can fit into the 'working life' easier. That's not to say that someone without experience can't however, from what I've seen and been told by employers students with no experience compared to those with experience, find it harder to adapt and still treat every task given like a university assignment, which companies don't like.
Also a mistake that a lot of university students believe is that with a strong academic degree, a job will be an easy thing to get, which is not true. Job applications take up a lot of time and rejections happen (it's not like applying to university at all). So, be patient when the time comes and apply for your working visa, a lot of my international friends could not obtain jobs here because they didn't have a working visa and companies are reluctant to pay for sponsorship for international students. If your unable to then think about getting a job back in your home country related to what you aspire to be and then come back to complete your masters.


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Original post by driftawaay
Of course you can get a good job with a 1st class business degree from Manchester, you are doing better than most people, trust me, lol just get work experience and you will be able to get a good job with your degree! And yeah you definitely need a couple of years work experience before going on to do an MBA!


Thank you. That actually boosted my morale tbh :smile: Forgot to mention I'm currently a summer intern at Ernst and Young in their international tax department. Before that I've accumulated more than 2 years' worth of work experience full time as well part time. Hope this helps.
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Original post by NuriaM
Like Klix88 said, you will require a working visa to obtain work in the UK. Also a first is an excellent qualification to obtain however, just academics is not going to make you stand out from the other candidates with a first AND with work experience. From my own experience working in industry I have seen candidates with a 2:1 and work experience get a job over someone that has a first and no work experience, so companies don't just want someone who is academically brilliant, they want someone that has experience working in companies and can fit into the 'working life' easier. That's not to say that someone without experience can't however, from what I've seen and been told by employers students with no experience compared to those with experience, find it harder to adapt and still treat every task given like a university assignment, which companies don't like.
Also a mistake that a lot of university students believe is that with a strong academic degree, a job will be an easy thing to get, which is not true. Job applications take up a lot of time and rejections happen (it's not like applying to university at all). So, be patient when the time comes and apply for your working visa, a lot of my international friends could not obtain jobs here because they didn't have a working visa and companies are reluctant to pay for sponsorship for international students. If your unable to then think about getting a job back in your home country related to what you aspire to be and then come back to complete your masters.


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Forgot to mention I'm currently a summer intern at Ernst and Young in their international tax department. Before that I've accumulated more than 2 years' worth of work experience full time as well as part time. Hope this helps. :smile: And yes I got a few more skills which might help like member of the Uni shooting team, fundamental programming and coding, etc
Reply 8
Original post by MagicNMedicine
Well yes, but this is kind of the wrong question and is a misconception a lot of international students have.

You aren't going to just get a job on the back of a strong academic performance at university.

What academic career do you want? How much have you researched the career? How much have you worked on developing your personal competencies so you will be an attractive candidate at university. Yes it will be good to have a first class degree but you won't be the only graduate with a first from a good university so don't rely on that as your main selling point.

Obviously it may be easier in your home country: I am talking about the UK labour market here. After finishing your course you will only be able to stay in the UK for 4 months, unless you can get a Tier 2 general work visa for which you will need an employer to sponsor you.


Forgot to mention I'm currently a summer intern at Ernst and Young in their international tax department. Before that I've accumulated more than 2 years' worth of work experience full time as well as part time. Hope this helps. :smile: And yes I got a few more skills which might help like member of the Uni shooting team, fundamental programming and coding, etc

What I actually pose to ask is what are my chances of getting a decent work sponsor?
Reply 9
Original post by Klix88
As above - your main concern will be that as an International student, your student visa will not allow you to remain in the UK and work after you graduate. You will need to return to your home country and apply for a working visa - which unfortunately have become quite difficult to get hold of in recent years.

You really need to be exploring pre-MBA working opportunities in your home country,so your employment prospects there are most significant for your future MBA/Masters plans.

Having said that, a straight Masters won't require the professional experience usually expected for an MBA. It might also be worth looking at going straight from your undergrad to a Masters without working experience.


Forgot to mention I'm currently a summer intern at Ernst and Young in their international tax department. Before that I've accumulated more than 2 years' worth of work experience full time as well as part time. Hope this helps. :smile: And yes I got a few more skills which might help like, being a member of the Uni shooting team, fundamental programming and coding, etc
What I actually meant to ask was that whether I'll get a decent work visa sponsor? I aim to do masters; thats for sure. Its just that I would like to work for 1 or 2 years so that I can fund myself and not take money off my dad. Neither I'm entitled to student loans nor do I pay the same fees, in fact more than double the amount local students pay
Make sure you start looking for a job in third year, it's nnot impossible for international students to get jobs after they graduate:two of my friends siblings graduated this year and have jobs lined up already. You can stay in the UK four months after graduation. The economy is picking up so I think you have a a fair chance but depends on how hard you work :smile:
I honestly think with your work experience you'll be fine. But I'd recommend speaking to careers advisers and looking for as many useful online resources as possible. This is a good one to start with, it's aimed at telling students and graduates how to find employment:

https://www.talentcupboard.com/guides/ultimate-guide-to-getting-your-dream-job-as-a-graduate

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