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To clarify: Are you saying Oxbridge discriminates against applicants from disadvantaged schools, or that because rich schools offer so much more it's easier for a less intrinisically able person to get into Oxbridge from them?(Original post by leda swanson)
arghhhhhhh..... you're very young, aren't you? you basically think that everyone is as fresh-faced and altruistic as yourself, non? -
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Well done. Now you can join the 55% of Cambridge applicants from state schools who get offers every year. You're not reeally breaking the mould...(Original post by leda swanson)
alas, this is the result of going to a state school and being intelligent enough to get into cambridge.
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i think she was saying both of these things... which seems fair enough. perhaps i shouldn't say this, there seems to be quite a few scalpels on the loose...(Original post by H&E)
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ah but baz, she has got a point. if 55% of oxbridge is state educated, this hardly constitutes equality, as considerably more than 55% of the public are state educated in general...(Original post by BazTheMoney)
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A third of people who get 3 As aren't state educated. The proportion of state applicants to Oxbridge is similar to the proportion who get offers.(Original post by UndiscoverdSelf)
ah but baz, she has got a point. if 55% of oxbridge is state educated, this hardly constitutes equality, as considerably more than 55% of the public are state educated in general...
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Nonsense! If anything the reverse is true! The fact that I went to a crap school ( no offense Mr Cooklin, you're a great headmaster ) was the only reason they gave me an offer!(Original post by leda swanson)
i think you need to include the fact that if you are applying from a crap state comprehensive in the middle of nowhere, then you have a much reduced chance of getting in compared to a person of equal intelligence from a good school, and so if you don't get in it doesn't necessarily mean that you are not up to standard, just that you haven't been educated as well as other people, and have failed to educate yourself as other people who do get in in your situation have.
Seriously though, as I understand it while a disproportionate number of public school applicants are let in that's only because a disproportionate number APPLY. There is a much higher rate of offers for state schoolers per applicants than those for public schoolers - not to mention that regardless of how well you think the special access scheme works the fact that it exists at all shows that they are making the effort. -
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I'm not sure that's right - I saw an admissions brochure (which I can't find online) which said that while just 30% of applications are from independent schools, 38% of offers go to the indepedent sector. I don't think this is hugely surprising, given that independent schools are both selective and require a strong commitment to education.(Original post by Faboba)
Nonsense! If anything the reverse is true! The fact that I went to a crap school ( no offense Mr Cooklin, you're a great headmaster ) was the only reason they gave me an offer!
Seriously though, as I understand it while a disproportionate number of public school applicants are let in that's only because a disproportionate number APPLY. There is a much higher rate of offers for state schoolers per applicants than those for public schoolers - not to mention that regardless of how well you think the special access scheme works the fact that it exists at all shows that they are making the effort. -
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You could be right but I remember the opposite. I'm not expert but some people on the forum are so hopefully they'll show up.(Original post by H&E)
I'm not sure that's right - I saw an admissions brochure (which I can't find online) which said that while just 30% of applications are from independent schools, 38% of offers go to the indepedent sector. I don't think this is hugely surprising, given that independent schools are both selective and require a strong commitment to education.
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The thing is that about 20% of applications are from overseas, whereas only about 10% of offers are. So the figures go up for both independent and state schools.(Original post by H&E)
I'm not sure that's right - I saw an admissions brochure (which I can't find online) which said that while just 30% of applications are from independent schools, 38% of offers go to the indepedent sector. I don't think this is hugely surprising, given that independent schools are both selective and require a strong commitment to education. -
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Finally found the stats here: http://www.admissions.ox.ac.uk/colleges/adstats.pdf(Original post by Faboba)
You could be right but I remember the opposite. I'm not expert but some people on the forum are so hopefully they'll show up.
Economicsts and statisticians; where are you when we need you?
Maintained: 47.1% of applications, 46.9% of offers
Independent: 36.1% of applications, 43.9% of offers.
That's quite a substantial difference.
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