Is it time for ID cards??

If you can prove to me illegal immigrants can't get jobs in Germany, France, Belgium, Italy or Spain and there are no terrorists in any of those countries, you might have a case. Although Germany seems to be very popular with illegal immigrants who do a lot of work in low skill sectors like agriculture and services.

http://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledgebase/239-breaking-the-silence-an-honest-discussion-about-illegal-immigration-to-germany

Although there was that Charlie Hepdo attack a few months ago in France that ID cards did not prevent.

So if the UK did have ID cards like Germany and France, we would also have illegal workers and terrorists like Germany and France.

Just because they are 'liberal' that makes it okay? What a joke. Maybe think before posting.

No, we don't live in nazi Germany where an officer goes "papers please" when I have done or not suspected of doing anything wrong. These 'Labour' wet dreams belong in the dust bin of history.

Whoa, slow down there, Stalin!

They won't take away any freedom? Well I currently have the freedom to go out in public without being forced to carry around any identifying documents like I'm some prisoner on day release, so that's one freedom that will disappear under your regime. I currently have the freedom to enter any shop and buy the majority of things without being forced to present ID. That freedom will also go. On that note, what happens if I'm on my way to do my food shopping only to find I have lost my ID card? Will I just have to go without food and necessities until the government gets around to issuing me with a new card? And if the waiting period is anything like it currently is to get a passport, I'll probably have starved to death long before I ever see the new card.

Just an awful, awful idea. I will be on the first plane out of this country if such a policy is ever introduced.

...don't most people carry ID on them all the time anyway?

So why waste the money if most people already carry ID?

Just make it compulsory to have it. And actually make people show photo ID for stuff, like ****ing voting.

...don't most people carry ID on them all the time anyway?

I always have my driving licence on me, which has my name, photo and address (obviously). Right now it's getting renewed, so I carry around my passport (in case I want to buy a drink, or go to a bank, whatever).

Why would an ID card be any more abhorrent or difficult to manage?

If you can prove to me illegal immigrants can't get jobs in Germany, France, Belgium, Italy or Spain and there are no terrorists in any of those countries, you might have a case. Although Germany seems to be very popular with illegal immigrants who do a lot of work in low skill sectors like agriculture and services.

http://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledgebase/239-breaking-the-silence-an-honest-discussion-about-illegal-immigration-to-germany

Although there was that Charlie Hepdo attack a few months ago in France that ID cards did not prevent.

So if the UK did have ID cards like Germany and France, we would also have illegal workers and terrorists like Germany and France.

There is no point in having an ID card if its not compulsory to carry one at all times is it?

There is no point in having an ID card if its not compulsory to carry one at all times is it?

I fail to see the significance of any of your points there. They certainly didn't even relate to my comments that you quoted. I addressed each point you made but you quote me back and then talk about something else. You're just wasting time my time with your straw man arguments.

LOL I hope you never get pulled over by the police and asked to show your driving licence.

With a national database you could just give your details to the Police who could instantly confirm it.

ID cards would just be a formality, although useful for confirming your identity and immigration status to landlords, universities and employers.

Would you really trust the govt to create a database of your information when we all know how useless the govt have been at implementing any IT project of any size?

If any such system does somehow get made, expect many complaints and mistakes from innocent people being denied access to services they are 100% entitled to.

Would you really trust the govt to create a database of your information when we all know how useless the govt have been at implementing any IT project of any size?

If any such system does somehow get made, expect many complaints and mistakes from innocent people being denied access to services they are 100% entitled to.

Which is why I'm not entirely keen on it, it would be a vast and complicated system. However various countries do manage to run them without many hiccups. It is just that we seem useless at protecting data and implementing IT projects on a national scale.

I just don't want a situation where ID cards are introduced and people are chucked in cells for not carrying them.