Corbyn packing them in!

How many other current members of parliament can repeatedly fill rooms like this everywhere they go?

I'm really hoping Jeremy Corbyn wins, there will be whole new areas of debate and a genuine opposition in the country. We need real critiques of neoliberal austerity, not a wishy-washy sell out version of fake criticism from people who covertly support the agenda, which was the case with the Labour leadership at the last election.

Vote Jeremy. X

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Reply 1

Fullofsurprises

And where to go to join Labour for £3 and vote Corbyn.
https://supporters.labour.org.uk/leadership/1

Reply 2

Rakas21

Excellent news comrade.

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Being serious, I see little point in railing against austerity. If the Tories actually achieve surplus in 2019 then you've wasted years talking about a non issue at the next election.

Reply 3

Johann von Gauss

Original post by Fullofsurprises

And where to go to join Labour for £3 and vote Corbyn.
https://supporters.labour.org.uk/leadership/1

I voted for Corbyn. Tory hegemony ftw!

Reply 4

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Rakas21

If they do. they will only manage it by deeply hurting most public services and cutting back on much of the infrastructure spending the country needs.

A few days ago the police announced that they will no longer attend premises that have been burgled due to lack of resources. Most traffic police are also being withdrawn, leaving the roads open to those who terrorise and kill using their cars as weapons. This is already increasingly noticeable in London, where police activity on the roads is minimal to the point of invisibility in most areas.

Just a couple of the things that are going to be increasingly happen as the Osborne cuts bite deep.

I presume your hopes are vested in increased tax revenues? For sure they will rise as the economy comes sluggishly out of recession, but nothing like they used to when the big corporations actually paid taxes.

Reply 5

L'Evil Fish

Going to see him next week! Excited.

I think his beliefs tied with someone who is grounded in economics and such would be great.

Also, if the tories to get rid of the deficit and create a surplus, then Corbyn will be able to raise general living standards and improve the economy further without borrowing more and more

Reply 6

Drewski

There is no doubt he appeals to a large faction of 'more left than centre' Labour voters.

However, does he have the popular appeal to win a GE? It's highly unlikely to the point of almost definitely not.

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Reply 7

getfunky!

Original post by Drewski

There is no doubt he appeals to a large faction of 'more left than centre Labour voters.

However, does he have the popular appeal to win a GE? It's highly unlikely to the point of almost definitely not.

Hmm I think he has a better chance than the other leadership candidates, he certainly stands out from them.

Who knows maybe his leadership will finally rid the party of "New Labour" and somewhat return it to a party that actually offers (substantially more) different politics than the Tories

Reply 8

Steeplechasing

He's way more popular than the useless trio of Cooper, Kendall and Burnham, that's for sure.

Reply 9

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Drewski

Clearly a substantial faction of the media will be set against him - after all, they have a great many industrial-scale privileged tax avoidance setups to defend! :lol:

I don't know, I think he might surprise the pundits, he's a very good speaker, he came across extremely well on Newsnight last week, he didn't sound at all like a mad Trot, he was laying out some policy ideas in clear language.

I have to admit for me it would be better to have a clear left opposition than two right wing parties fighting to change meaningless places though. I mean, what's the point in voting Labour if they are just as bad or worse than the Tories?

Reply 10

Drewski

Original post by Fullofsurprises

I mean, what's the point in voting Labour if they are just as bad or worse than the Tories?

The flipside is what's the point in voting Labour if they won't get into government?

Reply 11

meenu89

Original post by L'Evil Fish

I'm hoping he gets elected too.

Reply 12

N-R-G

I don't know who he is but still heres hoping what you said in OP is true.

Reply 13

Fullofsurprises

Original post by N-R-G

I don't know who he is but still heres hoping what you said in OP is true.

He's the MP for Islington North. (The less opulent part of Islington.) He's been around for a long time, he's on the left of the Labour Party but he's no fool and in many ways a smart cookie. He attracts criticism for aligning himself with causes like that of the Palestinians - but many might say that's a good thing.

Reply 14

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Drewski

The flipside is what's the point in voting Labour if they won't get into government?

Do most people vote for the party they think will win? Or do they vote for the party they think best reflects their views and would do the best job if elected? Similarly, do they want plastic dummy leaders who are drones of corporate interests (people like the current government and (sadly) many past and present New Labour politicians, or do they want people who stand up for what they believe?

It's odd hearing Tories claiming that Labour voters shouldn't go for a conviction politician, whilst at the same time they adore Margaret Thatcher's memory because she was, er, a conviction politician.

Reply 15

IsraelforLife

That moment when the party you yourself support, literally needs to be saved from itself

:facepalm2:

Reply 16

N-R-G

Original post by Fullofsurprises

I saw a fim about Palestine, I support their cause, I don't follow politics much because I feel new labour is too right wing, how left wing is Corbyn, is he a capitalist or a socialist or in between? I mean I don't like capitalism social democrats are a bit wishy washy yet would a socialist ever get in power?

Reply 17

Fullofsurprises

Original post by IsraelforLife

That moment when the party you yourself support, literally needs to be saved from itself

:facepalm2:

I know it's going to be hard for some Jewish supporters of Labour to get behind Corbyn, but if they are genuinely of the Left, they should try to look at the bigger picture - what Israel does in the territories, especially settler actions, is generally disgusting and a repeated affront to human rights on every level. Against that background, genuine people of the left would support Palestinian causes where those are aiming for a realistic peace and not a fake one dictated by Israeli settler interests.

Alternatively, you can side with the Israeli Right and act like all is well and Greater Israel is a justified fact on the ground, but if that's so, you should maybe stop pretending you are anything to do with the Left and that Labour should align itself with Netanyahu.

Reply 18

Fullofsurprises

Original post by N-R-G

He's much more towards socialist, he's very anti-big-corporations. He isn't a traditional 'nationalise everything in sight' socialist, but he does believe (as do clear majorities of the British people when asked) that key public services like the railways, water and energy ought to be in public hands.