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Avoid intellect and logic when it comes to Islam, says islamic cleric



KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 4 — Tan Sri Harussani Zakaria reminded federal ministers yesterday against issuing statements based on logic and intellect when it comes to Islam, claiming that the intellect is influenced by desires and subsequently susceptible to the devil.

In a report carried by Malay daily Sinar Harian, the Perak mufti also warned Muslim ministers against deriding and belittling Islamic laws, as they risk breaching their oath of loyalty that was made in the name of Allah.

“I advise them not to go overboard. Islam is based on faith… Don’t make any remarks based on the intellect or logic because they are laws of Allah,” Harussani said.

“The intellect is governed by desires and it is influence by shaitan (satan). Don’t be ruled by desires and rudderless comments,” he added, using the name of the Devil in Islamic lore.

Harussani said Muslim ministers, deputy ministers and state executive councillors have all taken their oaths in front of the Agong or a sultan, and sworn with the name of Allah to defend the Constitution.

“The Constitution states that the Islam is the religion of the federation. Therefore, they cannot deride and belittle Allah’s rules. If not, then it means they have breached their oaths,” added the mufti.

Harussani made his remarks when asked by Sinar to comment on newly-appointed Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Azalina Othman, who commented on the country’s censorship laws which she said had stunted the creative industry.

Azalina had said that the Film Censorship Board needs to relax its guidelines against banning intimate physical contact between Muslim male and female actors, since they were only acting out their roles.

Her remark has since enraged Islamic groups, including independent preacher Datuk Mohd Kazim Elias who urged her to “repent”.

Azalina was appointed as the chairman of the National Film Development Corporation on June 2, but stepped down last week following her appointment to the Cabinet.She was also picked as the minister in charge of parliamentary affairs, replacing Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim.

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Original post by GnomeMage
Avoid intellect and logic when it comes to Islam, says islamic cleric

Avoid chicken and beef when it comes to vegetarianism.
This is all too common in the US as well.

There are also ACE schools in the UK that preach Young Earth Creationism and discourage free thinking and poison the minds of children with the bible.
Original post by Fango_Jett
This is all too common in the US as well.

There are also ACE schools in the UK that preach Young Earth Creationism and discourage free thinking and poison the minds of children with the bible.


... and whatever you do boys and girls, never, never listen to those devil\shaitan scientists.
To be fair, this is not representative of Islamic thinking as a whole. One of the sources of deriving Islamic law is through Ijtihad, which essentially is through logic and reasoning. To what extent independent reasoning and logic are used depends in the Islamic school. For example, the Hanbali school derives Islamic laws primarily from the Quran, the Sahih Hadith and the Sahabah, whilst tending to avoid reasoning.

So essentially, some schools/individuals are far more willing to accept logic and reasoning and not take Hadiths and Quran passages at face value.
'Islamic Cleric states obvious '- hardly a news headline
Original post by The Epicurean
To be fair, this is not representative of Islamic thinking as a whole. One of the sources of deriving Islamic law is through Ijtihad, which essentially is through logic and reasoning. To what extent independent reasoning and logic are used depends in the Islamic school. For example, the Hanbali school derives Islamic laws primarily from the Quran, the Sahih Hadith and the Sahabah, whilst tending to avoid reasoning.

So essentially, some schools/individuals are far more willing to accept logic and reasoning and not take Hadiths and Quran passages at face value.


hadith and islamic edict are accepted based on political/ sectarian alignment and also 'acceptability' of statement. ie there are various 'contraversial' statements by ibn ishaq perhaps the most comprehensive biographer of mohammed, but some of his claims were not 'acceptable' so his character was assassinated by various powers int he modern islamic world

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