LGBT rights: Anti-terror orders should be used on Christian teachers, says Tory MP

We know what's coming, if a church refuses a gay marriage ceremony are we bigots now? We are being marinalised and pressured to accept your beliefs.

That is exactly what religious people have done for centuries and are still doing to gays and everyone else. Except that resulted in us being illegal and second class citizens while us gays and liberals are not advocating for your death or your imprisonment and we are not banning heterosexual marriage either.

By natural I meant that there is no evidence that homosexuality is genetic and that we are born with it. If you want to look at it your way then murder is also natural as it is observed in humanity and all the time in the animal world. In reality we are all born with sin whether you like it or not. Any white true christian is viewed as a bigot by the left.

another attack on Christianity
what about imams?

They won't leave us alone until they've completely crushed us. The bible warned us about these times, just stay strong and live by Jesus.

What planet do you live on? Since when are we advocating for your death? I have never marginalised gay people or people of other beliefs in my entire life, neither have most true believers. This is what is known as a 'straw man' argument.
I live by the word of God and that's how it'll be in my home and family, but that doesn't mean I'm going to persecute others. The only persecution I see is that of the left who come up with various labels such as 'bigots' to shut down other opinions.

There is plenty of evidence that proves that homosexuality is partly genetic and partly influenced by prenatal hormones that affect brain development. Maybe you should do more research before you claim there is no evidence. It is a scientific fact that sexuality is determined before birth. This is a typical case of an ignorant person not doing research and then trying to argue OR knowing the facts but ignoring them anyway. That is the definition of ignorance and bigotry. You ignore facts to suit your agenda.

However there is no evidence that God even exists.

And yes, murder is also natural. Whether something is natural or not doesn't mean it is right or wrong. Plenty of natural things are undesirable and plenty of unnatural things are useful in everyday life. Natural does not equal good and unnatural does not equal bad, therefore even if homosexuality was unnatural, it wouldn't make it wrong.

The only persecution I see is that of the left who come up with various labels such as 'bigots' to shut down other opinions.

They won't leave us alone until they've completely crushed us.

another attack on Christianity
what about imams?

What planet do I live on? LOL I live on planet Earth and half of the world's population lives in places where homosexuality is punishable by death. Most of them religious countries. Being gay put you in prison in this country until recent history because of religious people.

Well yes, there is nothing wrong or unnatural about being gay, and anybody who says otherwise needs to be shut down because they are lying and kids cannot be taught bigotry under the guise of religion.

Very childish.
It's funny how you accuse us of being unscientific yet you want to shut down any scientific discussions which questions whether homosexuality is biological in humans.

So science is childish? Okay.

Believing there is a guy watching over you isn't childish?

I don't need to shut down any discussions, it is an established fact that homosexuality is biological. This is official scientific consensus and not something that is to be debated by you, somebody who knows nothing about science and ignores facts.

As I said before, if I knew you were a complete nutcase, I would not have bothered with you at all, so don't quote me now because it will not be read and you are getting blocked now.

They won't leave us alone until they've completely crushed us. The bible warned us about these times, just stay strong and live by Jesus.

another attack on Christianity
what about imams?

It's funny because the scientists who set out to do this research went out hoping to find that homosexuality is natural to fir their agenda. And you said it, 'partly'. Clearly you know nothing of genetics. Certain genes may be triggered in certain circumstances by the environment. For instance, some scientists believe there are certain genes which when triggered draw out psychotic tendencies, this is done when the environment isn't suitable, so a child may grow up in rough circumstances, this will trigger the genes causes psychotic tendencies in the person. This is not possible without the environment. The same is with the genes which cause homosexuality, sorry but it is not as biologically natural as you may think. I saw a documentary recently where in northern Pakistan and Afghanistan homosexuality is rife because that part of Pakistan and Afghanistan are very culturally conservative. So the men engage in homosexual behaviour on a large scale, this is evidence that it is environmental, I doubt all those people carry the fictional gay gene you propose.

In the end I follow Jesus and the Bible, I don't need to listen to your brainwashed lefty opinions.

It's a christian that is dictating the context of the discussion, their are no Muslims in here talking about their holy books, I challenge each and every Muslim that expresses bigotry towards the LGBT community, just have a look under my thread history in the topic on 'i'm a muslim ama' where I gave her a well deserved grilling.

Our governments are the biggest terrorists

Our governments are the biggest terrorists

The left never speaks out against Islamic extremism but attack us ruthlessly, why is that? I have no problem with moderate muslims but I'm just wondering why you won't condemn Islamic extremism?

We know what's coming, if a church refuses a gay marriage ceremony are we bigots now? We are being marinalised and pressured to accept your beliefs.