Neo-Nazi March in Liverpool. Why.
Why do neo-nazis exist.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
I'm trying to calm down my anger of their continued existence because wanting to destroy them would make me no better, if not worse. But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
Some would say that people can change and while I do believe that too, there are some who seem way too deep in their hateful bigotry to ever be free of that thought.
I shouldn't see them as subhuman, but that's just my anger and frustration speaking.
But why do they exist.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
I'm trying to calm down my anger of their continued existence because wanting to destroy them would make me no better, if not worse. But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
Some would say that people can change and while I do believe that too, there are some who seem way too deep in their hateful bigotry to ever be free of that thought.
I shouldn't see them as subhuman, but that's just my anger and frustration speaking.
But why do they exist.
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Do you have a link or anything? Some more information?
Original post by RFowler
Do you have a link or anything? Some more information?
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/white-man-march-liverpool-cancelled-9862384
Thankfully they're gone now, but my questions still stand
Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/white-man-march-liverpool-cancelled-9862384
Thankfully they're gone now, but my questions still stand
Thankfully they're gone now, but my questions still stand
They have PEGIDA marches in Dresden where up to 30,000 once attended including neo Nazis etc saying they are against immigration and Islam so this thing is common everywhere. However, they also had a counter demonstration which was much bigger opposing neo Nazis.
Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
Why do neo-nazis exist.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
I'm trying to calm down my anger of their continued existence because wanting to destroy them would make me no better, if not worse. But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
Some would say that people can change and while I do believe that too, there are some who seem way too deep in their hateful bigotry to ever be free of that thought.
I shouldn't see them as subhuman, but that's just my anger and frustration speaking.
But why do they exist.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
I'm trying to calm down my anger of their continued existence because wanting to destroy them would make me no better, if not worse. But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
Some would say that people can change and while I do believe that too, there are some who seem way too deep in their hateful bigotry to ever be free of that thought.
I shouldn't see them as subhuman, but that's just my anger and frustration speaking.
But why do they exist.
Never heard of National Action before today, but I'll have a go.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
Original post by thesabbath
Never heard of National Action before today, but I'll have a go.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
White people in Liverpool are not an oppressed group
Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
Why do neo-nazis exist.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
I'm trying to calm down my anger of their continued existence because wanting to destroy them would make me no better, if not worse. But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
Some would say that people can change and while I do believe that too, there are some who seem way too deep in their hateful bigotry to ever be free of that thought.
I shouldn't see them as subhuman, but that's just my anger and frustration speaking.
But why do they exist.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
I'm trying to calm down my anger of their continued existence because wanting to destroy them would make me no better, if not worse. But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
Some would say that people can change and while I do believe that too, there are some who seem way too deep in their hateful bigotry to ever be free of that thought.
I shouldn't see them as subhuman, but that's just my anger and frustration speaking.
But why do they exist.
It's those goys who think they are smarter. We have beat them before and we will beat them again. They are racist fascists and the wonderful anti-racist UAF far-left Warriors will uphold true values and will triumph.
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Original post by Ourworld
It's those goys who think they are smarter. We have beat them before and we will beat them again. They are racist fascists and the wonderful anti-racist UAF far-left Warriors will uphold true values and will triumph.
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I'd actually consider UAF to be nearly equally as bad. Certainly they're worse than the EDL.
Original post by Tarte Tatin
White people in Liverpool are not an oppressed group
Are only "oppressed" people allowed to advocate for their interests? Who made that rule then?
Original post by thesabbath
Are only "oppressed" people allowed to advocate for their interests? Who made that rule then?
No, but you were comparing them to black and homosexual people who have been really oppressed in this country in recent history.
Original post by thesabbath
Never heard of National Action before today, but I'll have a go.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
Except they actually ARE neo-nazi's. And actual racists
"With coloured people we'd say big no to them coming over. But with [white people] we'd be a bit more lenient"
National Action leader Raymond has said himself that he based some of the group's ideologies on Hitler and the Nazi party. And believes that Hitler was justified in his action against people's such as Jews and Homosexuals.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/06/new-neo-nazi-group-national-action_n_4910260.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/exposed-rise-hitler-loving-national-action-3659759
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_(UK)
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Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act,
Which one would that be then?
Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
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Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
It's one of those moments where I really question the freedom of speech act, and whether or not it officially covers hate speech or not.
If you don't believe in freedom of speech for opinions that you vehemently disagree with then you don't believe in it at all. I'd rather everyone is entitled to broadcast their opinion - however vile it may be - than the state censor what it arbitrarily deems inappropriate.
They're not real national socialists. It's a misconception that Nazism is some form of extreme prejudicial racism.
Original post by Dùke
Nazi's and White nationalists are is resisting Jewish Marxist destruction of Europe and it's people
You are either with us or you support White genocide and are our enemies
You are either with us or you support White genocide and are our enemies
This white genocide thing really confuses me, what's so special about a skin colour? I can understand wanting to preserve your ethnicity (i,e regional and cultural heritage) but you'd be hard pressed finding somebody without genetic admixture.
Original post by thesabbath
Never heard of National Action before today, but I'll have a go.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
Perhaps they don't want Whites be reduced to a minority in their own native lands.
Perhaps they are frustrated that even to assemble a group of Whites advocating for their common interests is to get labelled "neo-Nazi", whereas for blacks or homosexuals to do so is labelled "diversity" or "pride".
Perhaps they don't subscribe to the Marxist religion of political correctness and therefore are not exercised by the negative morality you ascribe to their beliefs.
True, maybe living in a major city they look at London and know it will happen to them if nothing's done.
Liverpool also had (I assume still does have) trade links with the Hansaland, where Pediga marches
Original post by TimeWalker
They're not real national socialists. It's a misconception that Nazism is some form of extreme prejudicial racism.
I understand that they probably don't know what National Socialism means in any detail but are you saying that it (nazism) doesn't necessarily subscribe to a racial ideology?
Original post by Sabertooth
Which one would that be then?
I'm surprised it would be allowed in this country. In America they have these self-evident liberties enshrined in the common law made by Englishmen, in this country they have slowly been eroded away and are assumed, probably correctly not to exist anymore. I can't see the liberties made then for America to enjoy being made here now tbh
Original post by Ruthless Dutchman
Why do neo-nazis exist.
But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
But why do they exist.
But there really has to be a line drawn somewhere. What is the point of their march?
But why do they exist.
Why does evil of any sort exist? Why do kids get incurable diseases, or go blind, why do people starve to death in a world with enough food for everyone?
There is no answer to some questions. That is one of them.
I am struggling to understand why a hundred of so fascists walking down a street (actually NOT walking down a street) should annoy you so much.
There are FAR worse examples of human evil and depravity going on in the world right now, and graver dangers.
Have you been keeping up with what Islamic State have been up to recently, for example?
Are you aware of what life is like in North Korea?
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