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Top 20 UK unis for getting an IB Job

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    (Original post by sTe\/o)
    That's true - it's the only thing I know about Loughborough, anyway. You would hope that employers would be better informed than your average Joe, though.
    Correct, they are. I know it's not as good as the big league but sport is not all its known for by employers.
    Look at this guardian report from 2002 about how employers view universities. Go to page 12, where there is a list of the most common universities mentioned by employers as targets for recruitment.
    My point in showing this is that the "posh" ones dont always win out when it comes to the final cut.
    http://adinfo-guardian.co.uk/recruit...chure-2002.pdf
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    (Original post by Neilan)
    I am Totallywilling to accept that Loughborough is a poor choice for IB in comparison with Warwick/LSE/Oxbridge and those other big banking names, but it cant be considered worse than those other ones listed there.I know people at Loughborough who have gone to UBS, is that one of the ones you consider to be a big name?
    YES IT IS. GO BACK AND READ THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSTED. I WAS ANSWERING A SPECIFIC QUESTION. IT IS FOR MATHS/ECONOMICS. LOUGHBOROUGH IS THE WORST ONE OUT OF ALL OF THEM FOR ANYTHING ECONOMICS RELATED. A 1ST CLASS UNDERGRAD AT SOUTHAMPTON/QM WILL STAND YOU IN MUCH BETTER STEAD FOR AN MSc AT A UNI LIKE THE LSE COMPARED TO YOUR BELOVED LOUGHBOROUGH. STOP CHATTING ABOUT ENGINEERING! GOOD BYE.
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    why are we talking about luftbra engineering? AFAIK ive never heard anything about Loughborough Econ department...our Economics teacher laughs at it (even though he graduated there)...places like Southhampton are regarded as quite good for economics...

    EDIT: looks like TheAP summed up what i was saying quicker...except he forgot to switch of the Caps lock button :P
    seriously though...Loughborough students seem to be on every part of this forum...im no longer suprised at seeing some Modern lang. Luftbra student pop up at the Economics subforum or Maths subforum and start defending their Uni
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    (Original post by abrp)
    why are we talking about luftbra engineering? AFAIK ive never heard anything about Loughborough Econ department...our Economics teacher laughs at it (even though he graduated there)...places like Southhampton are regarded as quite good for economics...
    Okay so the economics is ****, but you dont have to have economics to go into IB.
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    (Original post by abrp)
    dunno but ICL Msc Maths is in Extra...maybe thats how he "switched" ?
    Imperial Maths BSc and Msci wernt in extra. Maths and computer science were though
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    thanks TheAP
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    (Original post by Neilan)
    Okay so the economics is ****, but you dont have to have economics to go into IB.
    okay then...lets tell the person who asked the question to accept Loughborough Economics offer and then try to get transferred to their engineering department.

    fool.
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    (Original post by abrp)
    okay then...lets tell the person who asked the question to accept Loughborough Economics offer and then try to get transferred to their economics department.

    fool.
    Presumably you mean to write "Engineering department" then?
    Fool.
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    Everybody, chill! There's no need to get so hostile.
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    (Original post by Neilan)
    Presumably you mean to write "Engineering department" then?
    Fool.
    im a fool because i wrote the wrong word as opposed to someone who has been giving wrong advise for god knows how many posts?

    :rolleyes:

    clearly you put me back in my place.
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    (Original post by Neilan)
    Correct, they are. I know it's not as good as the big league but sport is not all its known for by employers.
    Look at this guardian report from 2002 about how employers view universities. Go to page 12, where there is a list of the most common universities mentioned by employers as targets for recruitment.
    My point in showing this is that the "posh" ones dont always win out when it comes to the final cut.
    http://adinfo-guardian.co.uk/recruit...chure-2002.pdf
    But thats lousy though. Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds but not UCL, LSE, Durham ? Tbh it sounds like they just mixed all kinds of employers.
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    (Original post by Neilan)
    Correct, they are. I know it's not as good as the big league but sport is not all its known for by employers.
    Look at this guardian report from 2002 about how employers view universities. Go to page 12, where there is a list of the most common universities mentioned by employers as targets for recruitment.
    My point in showing this is that the "posh" ones dont always win out when it comes to the final cut.
    http://adinfo-guardian.co.uk/recruit...chure-2002.pdf
    personally, its surprising how york isnt in there, as i thought they had a good reputation? at least better than sheffield?
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    (Original post by markfung)
    personally, its surprising how york isnt in there, as i thought they had a good reputation? at least better than sheffield?
    I reckon it probably does bloody well! I don't mean to suggest that Lboro beats everything - its doesnt, not by any stretch of the imagination.
    In fact I'm sorry I pissed some of you off, just sometimes I get annoyed at people assuming that the common idea of where is good and where is bad is the be-all and end-all of the university puzzle.
    Again, sorry. Perhaps I will see you guys at an IB some time in the future (doubting it but who knows).
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    Anyone know any engineers in ib who graduated from a uni like ucl?
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    (Original post by v2006)
    Anyone know any engineers in ib who graduated from a uni like ucl?
    I should think there are plenty. If you are considering that route as a way into IB then I think you could do much worse.
    Only need BBB for most of their eng courses anyway so probably a pretty damn good backup if nothing else.
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    (Original post by v2006)
    Anyone know any engineers in ib who graduated from a uni like ucl?
    better chance than the uni's I've chosen.
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    I just wanted to make this one post and temporarily break my silence. I'll be starting at a bank and have seen the educational profiles of many of my fellow graduates.

    There is not a single person in a front office position (IBD, S&T, ECM/DCM) outside of these universities:

    Oxford
    Cambridge
    LSE
    Warwick
    UCL
    St Andrews
    Edinburgh
    Bath (just one)

    Here are the middle office unis:
    Cass
    Manchester (incl. Manchester Business School)
    Oxford Brookes
    Durham
    Loughborough
    Warwick (MSc HR Management or something)

    The vast majority of those going into middle office have degrees in finance, economics, or math. Amongst the front office students, there are degrees in law, history, politics, and even one in music.

    So...as I've said and I'll say again, for the front office, it appears that university reputation matters more than the course. If you are outside this circle (which I agree is flexible and differs slightly between different banks), you pretty much need a relevant degree just to get in the door, and it probably won't be the front door. This includes people who not only have finance-related degrees, but also MScs as well.
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    I just wanted to make this one post and temporarily break my silence. I'll be starting at a bank and have seen the educational profiles of many of my fellow graduates.

    There is not a single person in a front office position (IBD, S&T, ECM/DCM) outside of these universities:

    Oxford
    Cambridge
    LSE
    Warwick
    UCL
    St Andrews
    Edinburgh
    Bath (just one)

    Here are the middle office unis:
    Cass
    Manchester (incl. Manchester Business School)
    Oxford Brookes
    Durham
    Loughborough
    Warwick (MSc HR Management or something)

    The vast majority of those going into middle office have degrees in finance, economics, or math. Amongst the front office students, there are degrees in law, history, politics, and even one in music.

    So...as I've said and I'll say again, for the front office, it appears that university reputation matters more than the course. If you are outside this circle (which I agree is flexible and differs slightly between different banks), you pretty much need a relevant degree just to get in the door, and it probably won't be the front door. This includes people who not only have finance-related degrees, but also MScs as well.
    That seems fair (well perhaps not fair but correct!).

    Many engineers in there? I'm more interested in the second level there where relevant degrees are required.
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    I just wanted to make this one post and temporarily break my silence. I'll be starting at a bank and have seen the educational profiles of many of my fellow graduates.

    There is not a single person in a front office position (IBD, S&T, ECM/DCM) outside of these universities:

    Oxford
    Cambridge
    LSE
    Warwick
    UCL
    St Andrews
    Edinburgh
    Bath (just one)

    Here are the middle office unis:
    Cass
    Manchester (incl. Manchester Business School)
    Oxford Brookes
    Durham
    Loughborough
    Warwick (MSc HR Management or something)

    The vast majority of those going into middle office have degrees in finance, economics, or math. Amongst the front office students, there are degrees in law, history, politics, and even one in music.

    So...as I've said and I'll say again, for the front office, it appears that university reputation matters more than the course. If you are outside this circle (which I agree is flexible and differs slightly between different banks), you pretty much need a relevant degree just to get in the door, and it probably won't be the front door. This includes people who not only have finance-related degrees, but also MScs as well.
    are there more of them from oxford and cambridge(separately) than from lse
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    what about phds? are there any?
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