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BREAKING NEWS: Explosion, possibly a bomb, hits Bangkok.

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Original post by voiceofreason234
I don't need evidence, it's perfectly obvious. No one else goes around blowing stuff up randomly, especially when it comes to religious buildings.


Are we ignoring the entirety of human history prior to (and some post) 9/11?
Original post by DiddyDec
Is TSR a court of law? Or is it a forum where people post their opinions?


I was under the impression that this particular section of the forum revolves around 'debating' of current affairs. In debates you have to present an argument in the right manner, through logical consistency and factual accuracy.

It's really not that difficult to understand.
Original post by minimarshmallow
Are we ignoring the entirety of human history prior to (and some post) 9/11?


Apparently given Islamic terrorism started well before then ('and some post' is a whitewash of Islamic expansionism and violence)
Original post by Zander01
I was under the impression that this particular section of the forum revolves around 'debating' of current affairs. In debates you have to present an argument in the right manner, through logical consistency and factual accuracy.

It's really not that difficult to understand.


You are under the wrong impression, this is the part of the forum where people put forward arguments and childishly argue their point even when the evidence is against them.

However we have (likely) 3 possible options to choose from.

1. Political terrorists stemming from the unrest of the coup.

2. Random attack, such as the Arizona cinema shooting.

3. Islamist terrorists. Which have a presence in the South and as we can see from incidents such as Tunisia, tourist are a a preferred target of this kind of terrorist, especially "non-believers", which would be very common at a shrine.

So which door will it be?

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Original post by DiddyDec
You are under the wrong impression, this is the part of the forum where people put forward arguments and childishly argue their point even when the evidence is against them.

However we have (likely) 3 possible options to choose from.

1. Political terrorists stemming from the unrest of the coup.

2. Random attack, such as the Arizona cinema shooting.

3. Islamist terrorists. Which have a presence in the South and as we can see from incidents such as Tunisia, tourist are a a preferred target of this kind of terrorist, especially "non-believers", which would be very common at a shrine.

So which door will it be?

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When the evidence is against them? But you claim there is no need for evidence? Make your mind up pal.


First of all, no it wouldn't be very common at a tourist in the Capital no less seeing as the muslim insurgents in the South have only ever attacked in the South regions, they have never committed attacks outside of the south or tourist targets.

Additionally, according to the Royal Thai Amy Chief and deputy defence minister "This does not match with incidents in Southern Thailand. The type of bomb used is also not in keeping with the south.

The head of Thailand's junta himself believes that the main suspect is from an anti-government based faction based in the North East of Thailand where the Red Shirt movement is based.

Another aspect which some have pointed out is that if it was indeed linked to Muslim extremists then they would have every reason to claim responsibility due to the attacks "success".

No matter who it is, what is obvious is that it is an escalation of previous acts. It may very well have been muslim extremists as no one can no for sure yet. The point is though that clueless people shouldn't be pointing directly towards muslims with "no need for any evidence" when there are other issues at play here.
Original post by Zander01
When the evidence is against them? But you claim there is no need for evidence? Make your mind up pal.


First of all, no it wouldn't be very common at a tourist in the Capital no less seeing as the muslim insurgents in the South have only ever attacked in the South regions, they have never committed attacks outside of the south or tourist targets.

Additionally, according to the Royal Thai Amy Chief and deputy defence minister "This does not match with incidents in Southern Thailand. The type of bomb used is also not in keeping with the south.

The head of Thailand's junta himself believes that the main suspect is from an anti-government based faction based in the North East of Thailand where the Red Shirt movement is based.

Another aspect which some have pointed out is that if it was indeed linked to Muslim extremists then they would have every reason to claim responsibility due to the attacks "success".

No matter who it is, what is obvious is that it is an escalation of previous acts. It may very well have been muslim extremists as no one can no for sure yet. The point is though that clueless people shouldn't be pointing directly towards muslims with "no need for any evidence" when there are other issues at play here.


There is no need for evidence when forming a baseless opinion.

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Original post by Zander01




No matter who it is, what is obvious is that it is an escalation of previous acts. It may very well have been muslim extremists as no one can no for sure yet. The point is though that clueless people shouldn't be pointing directly towards muslims with "no need for any evidence" when there are other issues at play here.


probably they shouldnt, but you cant blame them ,its inevitable that a cowardly attack on largely tourists or unarmed civilians will initially be linked to islam- has all the hallmarks of islamic terrorism . It has established a reputation for this sort of act; add to that an attack on a shrine of another faith- once again a hallmark of islamists.

you can look accross the globe from canada to phillpines and see some incidence of an islamist attack - anywhere there is a sginficant muslim population. often these attacks are not formulated locally, they are planned and paid for in islamist hotspots like saudi, pakistan or yemen - then use local guinea pigs/converts.
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Original post by Scott.
If it is ISIS, then why attack there? Hardly going to scare people in the west.


you cant be so stupid to think IS is the only islamist group in the world - did you only start reading the news in 2014?

thailand like pretty much most countries on the planet that have muslim communities, have problems caused by islamist groups- pushing islamic agendas there too.
Original post by Zander01


The head of Thailand's junta himself believes that the main suspect is from an anti-government based faction based in the North East of Thailand where the Red Shirt movement is based.



Link please
Original post by Zander01
The point is though that clueless people shouldn't be pointing directly towards muslims with "no need for any evidence" when there are other issues at play here.


It's not like they don't have form though is it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/9877429/Muslim-insurgents-launch-50-attacks-in-Thailands-deep-south.html


A coordinated campaign of terror started at 6pm local time on Saturday, when seven bombs were planted outside shops, supermarkets and a karaoke bar in Pattani Town, the capital of Pattani Province, one of the three southernmost provinces of Thailand with a Muslim majority population.
Bomb disposal experts defused five of the bombs. But further devices were detonated later that night and on Sunday, while a wave of arson attacks gutted shops in Pattani Town and targeted mobile phone towers, security cameras and local defence bases elsewhere in Pattani Province.
"Intelligence estimates suggest there were 50 coordinated attacks. We managed to prevent attacks in eight spots," Police Major General Ekkaphob Prasitwattanachai told local media.
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Original post by BaconandSauce
Link please


You probably wouldn't accept anything other than a Jewish source.
Original post by Errm2
You probably wouldn't accept anything other than a Jewish source.


sounds like a political move for the current government to push suspicion to their rivals. but this type of attack , attacking normal bystanders is not their standard M.O. it is rather the standard practice of islam inspired terroists
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Original post by Reformed
sounds like a political move for the current government to push suspicion to their rivals. but this type of attack , attacking normal bystanders is not their standard M.O. it is rather the standard practice of islam inspired terroists


I thought Muslims were generally despised whilst anti-government was a little higher on the friendly scale.

Your analysis is poor and is based on your bias, not relevant information.
Original post by Errm2
I thought Muslims were generally despised whilst anti-government was a little higher on the friendly scale.

Your analysis is poor and is based on your bias, not relevant information.


muslims are not despised ( unless you are talking about your own opinion) certainly anti government activists are deemed a more direct threat to the current governments position, rather than i suppose the average thai. the cowardly attack targetting unarmed civlians there is very islamic in its style of terrorism, because generally people influenced by islam commit attacks such as this.

islam is what causes them to no fit in well in various societies, and thailand is no exception to all the other countries round the world where islamists have taken hold in mulims communities and caused confllict. you seem to think uk is the only country with this issue - wakeup, islam been causing division since its dawn.
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Original post by Reformed
muslims are not despised ( unless you are talking about your own opinion) certainly anti government activists are deemed a more direct threat to the current governments position, rather than i suppose the average thai. the cowardly attack targetting unarmed civlians there is very islamic in its style of terrorism, because generally people influenced by islam commit attacks such as this.


Yes, Paddy McGuinness was a Muslim.

islam is what causes them to no fit in well in various societies, and thailand is no exception to all the other countries round the world where islamists have taken hold in mulims communities and caused confllict. you seem to think uk is the only country with this issue - wakeup, islam been causing division since its dawn.


You are telling me what I think? Thank you.
Original post by Errm2
Yes, Paddy McGuinness was a Muslim.


Paddy McGuinness the tv presenter?

i think you have reached new depths of ridicule

Original post by Errm2

You are telling me what I think? Thank you.


not really, just making it public seeing as you seem not to want to. and making the point islam has inspired acts like this accross numerous countries accross the globe.
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Reply 36
Original post by Reformed
Paddy McGuinness the tv presenter?

i think you have reached new depths of ridicule


No. The Irish.

not really, just making it public seeing as you seem not to want to.


Psychiatrists have dubbed your condition as the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Original post by Errm2
No. The Irish.



Psychiatrists have dubbed your condition as the Dunning-Kruger effect.


LOL :facepalm: Good call , he did indeed resort to quoting the Dunning-Kruger effect. took only 15 mins
Original post by Errm2
No. The Irish.



Psychiatrists have dubbed your condition as the Dunning-Kruger effect.


pretend im not in the psychiatry profession, and try answering my question like a normal person.
Reply 39
Original post by Reformed
LOL :facepalm: Good call @string56 , he did indeed resort to quoting the Dunning-Kruger effect. took only 15 mins


You didn't want to discuss the Irish?

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