i think the uk education system is failing me :/

Well if school was quite it would be a good place to do extra things, at home i'm very distracted by tv and computer and everything around em at school i feel more motivated.With youtube videos i find it hard to focus i'm a visual person who needs to see things black and white written down rather than listening. In school i could always get help from teachers but at home i cannot get help.

Sure, I did. I suspected it was an obsession with praise and prestige and you've admitted it yourself quite a few times. Don't get me wrong, I'm not deliberately attacking you. You just seem blissfully unaware of the attitude you're taking. Have a think about the following statement: 'Getting to imperial would make me happy as others would praise me and i would feel better about myself.'

You're openly admitting that you want to do it because you want praise. And if you need validation from others to feel good about yourself, well, that's going to cause you some problems when you go to top universities and (assuming you're reasonably smarter than your peers) are faced with the reality that you're no longer special and that everybody is as smart or smarter than you. That's what I'm saying: this attitude will screw you over in the long run. Sorry if my tone has been a bit terse but that is just the way that it pans out for a lot of people in your position.

I feel like the south Korean students are very lucky i wish i could go cram school till 10 and spend all the time revising. My mom never pushes me which makes em sad because i want her to push me more and i try to do it myself but tis hard to get out of old habits. I already feel stress and pressure from myself so i would not be bothered by all the stress I'm used to it.

So many things wrong with that statement.

The 'Asian Way' or actually Rote learning doesn't actually equip students very well. It just helps them pass exams, which conveniently happens to be what we assess the different countries academic performance on.

We teach our students to think for themselves, to contribute to lessons. Yes that creativity means we can be undisciplined but I tell you what, I would hate to be taught like they do in China.

There was a programme on the BBC recently comparing the styles - go take a look and really decide which is better.

How do you propose I change myself. I have no idea how to study maths outside of school as they are changing the math test and its going to be way harder and the grades will be in numbers and i cant find any resources for the new maths GCSE's as they reformed the whole exam and for example the new best grades is 2 times higher than the old a*. so what am i meant to do?! And my new science teacher is hopeless. I don't even know what text book to use for maths because i don't think they're any with new material.

I seen the first episode of that series and i thought the teaching method was very good and i learn that way the bets. By the way did you watch the whole series because i didn't if you did what happened in the end? Who had the better test results? Passing exams is my main goal of getting an education so rota learning suits me.

Asian education turns you into automatons who all think the same way, I would rather inflict pain on myself than go through their harsh education system. It's memorisation after memorisation, very little emphasis put on critical thinking which is why Asia has the fewest famously successful entrepreneurs while the west have plenty.

You might think your education is failing you but the reality is you go to a developed country and have access to facilities others could only dream of. Take the opportunity, stop deflecting your own laziness and work hard. My friend came from a comprehensive and he studies at UCL, I hope to follow suit and go to a RG university, we're both from state schools.

The disruptive students drop like flies after GCSEs anyway so ignore them and stay focused.



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If everyone in my uni was as smart as me i would be happy as in my class, there are loads of idiots and it makes me unhappy as i have no one to relate to or talk to as all people do in my class i gossip and scream and do not think about their future. So you are wrong. If i went to imperial I would get praise from my mom and my family and people i meet. By the way what do you want to be when your'e older just interested.

for me education is all about memorization

So many things wrong with that statement.

The 'Asian Way' or actually Rote learning doesn't actually equip students very well. It just helps them pass exams, which conveniently happens to be what we assess the different countries academic performance on.

We teach our students to think for themselves, to contribute to lessons. Yes that creativity means we can be undisciplined but I tell you what, I would hate to be taught like they do in China.

There was a programme on the BBC recently comparing the styles - go take a look and really decide which is better.

Again, your logic is entirely circular. You've already said that you need praise to feel better about yourself; how is going to make you feel better about yourself when you discover you're either average or below average among your peers? I'm not saying don't go to top universities but if you go there with this mindset, you will crack like a nut under the pressure. Tying down your happiness to other people's opinion of you is a recipe for disaster. Beyond that, do what you want.

I'm applying for medicine this year.

for me education is all about memorisation so this apparently 'harsh education system' would cater to my needs very well. For em school is all about memorisation and passing exams.which i cannot do if the school system is failing me

I did. But how did they get there? By rote learning - which means you pass exams and nothing else.

What happens after education? What happens when you go into the big bad world of work with all your shiny qualifications and you find you don't have the skills required apart from a bunch of worthless certificates.

Graduate Jobs certainly require you to think for yourself, Rote learning does not prepare you for that.

Oh and for those suggesting my side of the argument is throwing you down. If that's what gets you through exams - go for it. Just recognise its not the way for the majority of the UK population.

So your'e doing a level?
your'e doing im assuming physics,chemistry,maths and biology. as thats what people who want to study medicine usually do?if you are doing these a levels are they hard just wondering, as i want to do those a levels? i tie my opinions to other people's as i often feel judges by others and the need to make a good impression is important.

So your'e doing a level?
your'e doing im assuming physics,chemistry,maths and biology. as thats what people who want to study medicine usually do?if you are doing these a levels are they hard just wondering, as i want to do those a levels? i tie my opinions to other people's as i often feel judges by others and the need to make a good impression is important.

so,i have looked at many countries in Asia such as Singapore,japan and south Korea ,china and they're education is way better and their pupils are more disciplined unlike in the uk. I also hate how in hate the uk the teaching methods are like discussion and trying to figure stuff out while in other asian countries that i mentioned they're different and better. in Asian countries that i mentioned they are way ahead than the uk with education and they're smarter and most pupils seem to respect they're teacher and know that the teacher has authority while in the uk in my school no one seems to respect the teacher and don't even know the simple rule that in the class room you are meant to be quite and listen to the teacher and not interrupt and put your hand up.

I feel like my education is being failed as in one lesson for example in science that was 1 hour and 15 minutes all we learned was what is photosynthesis and its equation and what do plants need to survive which should have took 10 minutes or less. Or for example in maths we do the same thing every year we learn the same thing and we never learn challenging difficult concepts or anything like that. Teachers cannot control the class they don't know how to make the class quite and listen, they won't shout or send bad people out and I'm just frustrated because i spend more than half of the lesson waiting for everyone to shut up.In asian countries it is shown that most pupils respect their teachers and shut up. I feel like in the uk there is not enough pressure on young people to success and not enough discipline and young people are not pushed to their limit and are too comfortable.

I feel like I'm being let down as I'm not achieving my potential as i try so hard in school to learn and i never learn as much as I can as people don't know when to be quite or behave. I wish the uk education system was as good and strict as the one in japan for example. I think school should be longer for example 12 hours long or even 10 (the limit) and that they're should be cram schools in the uk. I do not think the emphasise on studying and succeeding in life because of education is emphasised enough in the uk.

So you want to be an automaton? What's your ambition to become a banker?

It doesn't stop students from comprehensives going to university to study medicine, stop deluding yourself and stop blaming others when it's your own efforts that ultimately determine your future.


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Tell me what happened at the end of the series. Who had better test results? also if rota learning is so bad why do so many Chinese students go to top universities in the uk? it seems to work for them (rota learning). i'm that person who needs everything said to them instead of making em find out on my own that's annoying and doesn't work for me.