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Original post by Jammy Duel
Being centrist?

And of course thins works entirely under the assumption that Corbyn is still leader in 2020.


What on Earth is centrist about the Tories at present? The 'centre ground' has been shifted to the right anyway courtesy of our benevolent media and Tory PR.


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Original post by Arbolus
I have to say that the right-wingers in question here are being unbelievably short-sighted. It's possible that Labour under Corbyn would indeed be unelectable, but it's by no means certain. And, in the event that Corbyn somehow does become PM in 2020, it would be a disaster for everyone but most especially for those on the hard right who think they want to see Labour destroyed.

Hence why, if I'd bought myself a vote, it would have been for Liz Kendall. Of all the candidates on offer, she's the only one who could conceivably persuade me to vote Labour at any time in the next five years.


Why would you vote for a Tory-lite Labour when you can have the real thing? Kendall as leader will see Scotland exit the UK and Wales be tempted to follow.


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Original post by Midlander
Why would you vote for a Tory-lite Labour when you can have the real thing? Kendall as leader will see Scotland exit the UK and Wales be tempted to follow.


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Lol? Wales? The part of the country with next to no nationalist movement

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Original post by Jammy Duel
Lol? Wales? The part of the country with next to no nationalist movement

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The SNP were a minority force in Scottish politics just 10 years ago. When you desert your core voters to try and win swing voters this is the sort of thing that happens. If Scotland did actually leave, it would boost separatism elsewhere and faced with a bunch of Tories in red and blue ties the Welsh may take it more seriously.

Which you would like, since the Tories have failed in Wales and Scotland for decades.


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Anyone who makes them unelectable.
I voted for Yvette Cooper. I felt that she was the person most likely to unite the whole party and listen to throse who are from the left and from the centre. I think that she comes across well in interviews and I have been incredibly impressed by the way that she has been speaking during the current refugee crisis. I think that she has the ability to strongly challenge David Cameron in prime ministers question time as she comes across well when speaking in the HOC in a way that I don't think that Corbyn will.

I don't really like Corbyn to be honest. I like a good number of his policies especially his economic onces but I don't trust him as a person. I would much rather that if someone else from the left of the party had stood. I think that the way that he has conducted his campaign is going to mean that a good proportion of the party are going to struggle to unite behind him. There are also some of his fundamental policies when it comes to defence and foreign policy that I disagree with him in.

One thing that has concerned me a lot about this election is the intolerance of a lot of Corbyn supporters. I can definitely see why people would choose to vote for him and I would never say that someone shouldn't be in the Labour party for supporting him. However when I say that I am supporting Cooper I have been told a number of times that I should just go and vote Tory because that is what I effectively am. I support our NHS and feel that most if not all private companies with in it should leave, I feel that every child should have access to the same opportunities regardless of where they grow up or what their background is, I think that people who earn more money should pay more tax to support those who are struggling, I think that we should have a solid social security system that people can draw on when they can't work or can't find work. In my mind the Labour party is the the party that be represents me. I worry that I will not be welcome in a party lead by Corbyn which after over 10 years of being a member saddens me.
Original post by tyling_roses
Does that have anything to do with it??


She clearly is in line with Ed Balls political beliefs. Ed Balls is an idiot.
Original post by Mad Vlad
Ed Balls is actually quite an intelligent chap. He was let down by consequence of being so closely associated with Milibland's unelectable ticket.


Intelligent in qualification and IQ yes but, as Miliband no. 2 I think that it is quote clear he fully supported Milliband's policies.
Original post by randdom
I voted for Yvette Cooper. I felt that she was the person most likely to unite the whole party and listen to throse who are from the left and from the centre. I think that she comes across well in interviews and I have been incredibly impressed by the way that she has been speaking during the current refugee crisis. I think that she has the ability to strongly challenge David Cameron in prime ministers question time as she comes across well when speaking in the HOC in a way that I don't think that Corbyn will.

I don't really like Corbyn to be honest. I like a good number of his policies especially his economic onces but I don't trust him as a person. I would much rather that if someone else from the left of the party had stood. I think that the way that he has conducted his campaign is going to mean that a good proportion of the party are going to struggle to unite behind him. There are also some of his fundamental policies when it comes to defence and foreign policy that I disagree with him in.

One thing that has concerned me a lot about this election is the intolerance of a lot of Corbyn supporters. I can definitely see why people would choose to vote for him and I would never say that someone shouldn't be in the Labour party for supporting him. However when I say that I am supporting Cooper I have been told a number of times that I should just go and vote Tory because that is what I effectively am. I support our NHS and feel that most if not all private companies with in it should leave, I feel that every child should have access to the same opportunities regardless of where they grow up or what their background is, I think that people who earn more money should pay more tax to support those who are struggling, I think that we should have a solid social security system that people can draw on when they can't work or can't find work. In my mind the Labour party is the the party that be represents me. I worry that I will not be welcome in a party lead by Corbyn which after over 10 years of being a member saddens me.


My issue with Cooper was that she came across as a wet lettuce candidate who seemed to be using her gender more than beliefs or ideas. Having lived in Scotland for 7 years now I just do not see how someone who is afraid of committing to anything can inspire anybody. Much the same with Burnham who keeps saying 'I watch football and drink beer' and is again very reluctant to commit himself to something without consulting a focus group first.

I resigned from the Labour Party earlier this year because I felt let down by it nationally and regionally as a party that was ashamed of its roots in pursuit of an ill defined centre ground that looked like Tory-lite. This time I signed up as a supporter and voted Corbyn, as he offers me hope of a Labour that isn't afraid of being a convincing alternative to the Tories. I am now represented by the SNP at all layers of government and despise that, and only in Corbyn do I see the antidote.

Also every campaign has its nutters so do try to ignore it. Still, the gutter treatment of Corbyn by Cooper and Kendall does nothing for me either.


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Even if Corbyn is good the press will make sure they finish him.

I really can't see how Labour get back in tbh
Original post by xxvine
Even if Corbyn is good the press will make sure they finish him.

I really can't see how Labour get back in tbh


We are going to have a revolution and Supreme Leader Comrade Corbyn is going to lead us to a Socialist victory.

All Hail Lenin Cat!

[video="youtube;DKTA_agCj50"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKTA_agCj50[/video]
[QUOTE=Jarred;59185063 Here's a man who say's "We don't have enough money to fund our ridiculous policies? **** it, WE'LL PRINT MORE MONEY". You really can't make it up :lol: Sensible QE is something I can deal with but not that.

Really sounds like you haven't a ****ing clue what 'sensible QE' is and how it differs from PQE.

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