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Petition to excempt shisha from the smoking ban...

Why can't these bars just move the Shisha part outside? I don't know what the rules are exactly, but in Scotland it's still allowed if it's outside but there's a roof over your head, or something.

Reply 21

L i b

19

Thud

surely they can't stop people smoking in shisha cafes? the whole point of the business is to smoke shisha! you don't want to inhale the smoke, you don't go in there. pretty ****ing simple really.

Ditto with a smoking pub I'd say, but that doesn't seem to be good enough for most people.

I'm not signing the petition though because i don't like that websit. links IP address with name, political beliefs and address = not good imo.

I think if MI5 et al give a toss, they'll have tracked you down by now.

davidjones90

BTW these petition are part of the goverment serves, notice the web address .gov.uk so it is 110% safe.

You complete knobber.

Let me put it this way: who has ever set up a concentration camp - (1) British private companies or, (2) the British Government.

Answers on the back of a postcard...

Reply 22

Thud

17

Lib North

Ditto with a smoking pub I'd say, but that doesn't seem to be good enough for most people.

i agree. though a pub's main aim could be said to be drinking, whereas a shisha cafe exists solely to smoke in. you can't have a shisha cafe without shisha, whereas you can [even if it's undesirable] have a bar without smoke.

Lib North

I think if MI5 et al give a toss, they'll have tracked you down by now.

Reply 23

ten bob

Thud

i agree. though a pub's main aim could be said to be drinking, whereas a shisha cafe exists solely to smoke in. you can't have a shisha cafe without shisha, whereas you can [even if it's undesirable] have a bar without smoke.

:ninja:

You go down to your typical WMC and ask what it's there for. I'll bet most people won't say 'to have a drink'. Many go there to smoke and socialise, get away from the wife etc.

It's sad that some businessess wil close as a result of the ban, but it's for the best.

Reply 24

ten bob

And no one's tracking you down Thud. Even 30 years ago you wouldn't have been worth surveilling....

Reply 25

FadedJade

15

They shouldn't be exempt at all. Why should they? Bring on June! Bar work wont be quite so unpleasant anymore.

Reply 26

Indievertigo

15

mangomaz

As far as I know the smoke exhaled isn't harmful to others? So I'm not too sure on what health grounds its being banned, other than it falls into the category of smoking.

I don't think there is any type of smoke that isn't harmful to people by passive inhalation.

Reply 27

supernova2

11

Tbh people that smoke normal cigarettes are going to say they do it because of the social grounds rather than them being addicted. I think its good on the government to take a moral high ground and try to lower the smoking amount even though it could lead them to lose a lot of revenue. Whats the point in smoking shisha anyway? Just go and relax in a pub instead.

Reply 28

AT82

What is the point in a petition when the vast majority of the British public support the smoking ban?

Reply 29

Psyk

16

Well I think in some ways it is fair to allow shisha in places that are specifically there for it. After all, you simply wouldn't go in there if you didn't smoke, where as a pub you might just want a drink. But if they make this exception, who's to say regular pubs won't start selling it and saying "oh, we're exempt, we're a shisha cafe".

Not that I agree with the smoking ban in the first place. But I'm not going to complain about it since it only benefits me as a non-smoker.

Reply 30

LostRiot

14

Private members clubs are still allowed, so I shisha places will probably just change to members clubs.

Shisha is just smoking for people who are too pretentious to smoke, you're just as likely to get cancer, you get the same effect as cigarettes (my mate once claimed it got you 'high' lol, fools), it's just all a bit sillier. Just buy a pack of menthol fags and smoke them in your front room around a weird ornament or lamp in the middle.

Reply 31

L i b

19

Thud

i agree. though a pub's main aim could be said to be drinking, whereas a shisha cafe exists solely to smoke in. you can't have a shisha cafe without shisha, whereas you can [even if it's undesirable] have a bar without smoke.

I'd have said the primary aim of both is to be sociable. I've got a shisha pipe and a bottle of vodka in my house, it's cheaper for me to do both of these activities at home...

Reply 32

L i b

19

LostRiot

Private members clubs are still allowed, so I shisha places will probably just change to members clubs.

I was under the illusion the ban applied to private members clubs assuming they had any staff. Obviously a shisha cafe would need some employees.That's the position in Scotland too.

Otherwise students' unions and all other manner of things would be used to get around it.

Reply 33

AT82

The ban does indeed apply to private members clubs :smile:

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Reply 34

andy_1989

I just signed the petition, I also go Edware Road for the shisha cafes. No one goes in there that doesn't want to smoke shisha so I don't see the problem. In bars and clubs its great that smoking is gonna be banned.

Reply 35

A is for Awesome

2

I don't smoke in any form so it doesn't bother me.

And it is unhealthy for smoke of ANY kind to be inhaled into the lungs, be it fresh, exhaled, cigarette, shisha, or any other kind.

Reply 36

Thud

17

ten bob

You go down to your typical WMC and ask what it's there for. I'll bet most people won't say 'to have a drink'. Many go there to smoke and socialise, get away from the wife etc.

It's sad that some businessess wil close as a result of the ban, but it's for the best.

you're just gonna disagree with everything i said just for the sake of it, read what I wrote carefully, moron:

"agree. though a pub's main aim could be said to be drinking, whereas a shisha cafe exists solely to smoke in. you can't have a shisha cafe without shisha, whereas you can [even if it's undesirable] have a bar without smoke."

Reply 37

xXMessedUpXx

15

if it involves tobacco then its going to be included in the smoking ban..aftern all you do smoke it. and as someone else said, if i can't have a cigerette then i'll be damned if others can smoke :p:

Reply 38

lamenter

12

xXMessedUpXx

if it involves tobacco then its going to be included in the smoking ban..aftern all you do smoke it. and as someone else said, if i can't have a cigerette then i'll be damned if others can smoke :p:

The whole point of the smoking ban is to stop bar staffs are non smokers from becoming second hand smokers (since the amount of people quitting has fallen). The whole point of a Shisha bar is to smoke it. It's not open for Acohol or for general shopping. If your in a shisha bar it's 99% likely you are there to smoke it. Everyone who goes in there know the risks of smoking.

Reply 39

PJ

14

Bubblebee

Something upper-middle class tory rich boys do to piss off Daddy and act like a ******.

That said though, it is a nice passtime just the scene makes it ****ty.

I won't sign the petition because if I can't have a ciggarette with my whiskey then why should other ****ers be able to smoke.

Something middle class tory kids do?

Your an Idiot.....

Please don't say anything at all if you don't know what your talking about.

Petition to excempt shisha from the smoking ban...

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