Why are so many people clueless about immigration?

Just watching QT on iPlayer and I keep hearing the same old rubbish from the Lefites time and time again:

1) I do not care about NET benefits/figures. If you're going to spout "net" then you are saying for every Donald Trump admitted we should also admit 100,000 immigrants who leach off the state, simply because netting their contributions would be positive.

2) If its fine to have a strict non-EU immigration policy then why is it wrong to apply it to EU immigrants?

3) Picking Strawberries for a living, however commendable does NOT pay enough taxes to cover the costs of that individual to public services. The majority of immigrants who come here will not earn much (the normal distribution of wages- even the UK average salary is £25k and that's with our MUCH better education system).

4) Tim Farron says 2.7 million Brits are abroad in the EU, what proportion of them are low-earners compared with the proportion of immigrants in the UK? Do any of them sleep in parks? Receive free houses? £20k a year in benefits?

5) Every additional person in this country increases the pressure on housing.

6) Every low-skilled immigrant increases the supply of Labour and suppresses wages.

7) The increase of immigrants increases the burden on schools, hospitals, police, transport etc. As mentioned earlier, immigrants generally don't earn high salaries and therefore pay little tax in the grand scheme of things. So who do you think will be funding the increase in public services caused by immigration? Clue: British taxpayer.

My view:

Get out of the EU/Freedom of EU movement and apply our points-based non-EU immigration policy to ALL immigrants. This even silences the "our NHS would be finished without immigrants" argument because nurses are favoured within our non-EU immigration policy.

Just watching QT on iPlayer and I keep hearing the same old rubbish from the Lefites time and time again:

1) I do not care about NET benefits/figures. If you're going to spout "net" then you are saying for every Donald Trump admitted we should also admit 100,000 immigrants who leach off the state, simply because netting their contributions would be positive.

2) If its fine to have a strict non-EU immigration policy then why is it wrong to apply it to EU immigrants?

3) Picking Strawberries for a living, however commendable does NOT pay enough taxes to cover the costs of that individual to public services. The majority of immigrants who come here will not earn much (the normal distribution of wages- even the UK average salary is £25k and that's with our MUCH better education system).

4) Tim Farron says 2.7 million Brits are abroad in the EU, what proportion of them are low-earners compared with the proportion of immigrants in the UK? Do any of them sleep in parks? Receive free houses? £20k a year in benefits?

5) Every additional person in this country increases the pressure on housing.

6) Every low-skilled immigrant increases the supply of Labour and suppresses wages.

7) The increase of immigrants increases the burden on schools, hospitals, police, transport etc. As mentioned earlier, immigrants generally don't earn high salaries and therefore pay little tax in the grand scheme of things. So who do you think will be funding the increase in public services caused by immigration? Clue: British taxpayer.

My view:

Get out of the EU/Freedom of EU movement and apply our points-based non-EU immigration policy to ALL immigrants. This even silences the "our NHS would be finished without immigrants" argument because nurses are favoured within our non-EU immigration policy.

Why are so many people clueless about immigration?

God God man, why on Earth would you watch QT? It's state-sponsored brainwashing. I fundamentally believe we'd have rational thought in this country if we did away with The Bias By Omission Corporation. In terms of social policy, it makes Cuba look centrist.

I must admit the only part of QT I enjoy is the right-wing non-mainstream politician they occasionally have (Farage, Melanie Phillips, David Starky, Julia Hartley-Brewer etc) because they actually say it how it is!

It's not worth the stress, nor is it reflective of majority sentiment. 68% of the British public want a reduction in mass immigration, the largest group polled didn't want any migrants from those migrating across the European continent or in the Syrian camps.

The BBC is just the permanent adversary to any conceptualisation of national sovereignty - everyone is oppressed (except white men), everything is 'hate speech' (unless it's perpetrated against white men), everything is moral relativism. It hates everything about The UK, hence why it wants to engineer a new one. Come the Charter review in 2016, I will be ditching the license fee. I advise you to do the same.

Just watching QT on iPlayer and I keep hearing the same old rubbish from the Lefites time and time again:

1) I do not care about NET benefits/figures. If you're going to spout "net" then you are saying for every Donald Trump admitted we should also admit 100,000 immigrants who leach off the state, simply because netting their contributions would be positive.

2) If its fine to have a strict non-EU immigration policy then why is it wrong to apply it to EU immigrants?

3) Picking Strawberries for a living, however commendable does NOT pay enough taxes to cover the costs of that individual to public services. The majority of immigrants who come here will not earn much (the normal distribution of wages- even the UK average salary is £25k and that's with our MUCH better education system).

4) Tim Farron says 2.7 million Brits are abroad in the EU, what proportion of them are low-earners compared with the proportion of immigrants in the UK? Do any of them sleep in parks? Receive free houses? £20k a year in benefits?

5) Every additional person in this country increases the pressure on housing.

6) Every low-skilled immigrant increases the supply of Labour and suppresses wages.

7) The increase of immigrants increases the burden on schools, hospitals, police, transport etc. As mentioned earlier, immigrants generally don't earn high salaries and therefore pay little tax in the grand scheme of things. So who do you think will be funding the increase in public services caused by immigration? Clue: British taxpayer.

My view:

Get out of the EU/Freedom of EU movement and apply our points-based non-EU immigration policy to ALL immigrants. This even silences the "our NHS would be finished without immigrants" argument because nurses are favoured within our non-EU immigration policy.

What the left fail to realise is the fact MASS UNCONTROLLED immigration changes communities in the space of months. They become unrecognisable. I live in a place of Mass Immigration and it is not the utopia the left make it out to be. Segregation is rife. The Muslim community stick to themselves, the Irish community to themselves, the English community to themselves, the Eastern European community to themselves, the Black African community to themselves, the Chinese community to themselves, the Indian community to themselves, on and on. Yes, there is some mix and professionally people will work together but socially it is more segregated than ever. You rarely here English spoken from the other communities.

The left spout all this crap about economic benefits, but all I see in this area of Mass immigration is a pit, dirty, high crime, dangerous, poor standards and a culture clash. Where are the benefits for people like us?

Just watching QT on iPlayer and I keep hearing the same old rubbish from the Lefites time and time again:

1) I do not care about NET benefits/figures. If you're going to spout "net" then you are saying for every Donald Trump admitted we should also admit 100,000 immigrants who leach off the state, simply because netting their contributions would be positive.

2) If its fine to have a strict non-EU immigration policy then why is it wrong to apply it to EU immigrants?

3) Picking Strawberries for a living, however commendable does NOT pay enough taxes to cover the costs of that individual to public services. The majority of immigrants who come here will not earn much (the normal distribution of wages- even the UK average salary is £25k and that's with our MUCH better education system).

4) Tim Farron says 2.7 million Brits are abroad in the EU, what proportion of them are low-earners compared with the proportion of immigrants in the UK? Do any of them sleep in parks? Receive free houses? £20k a year in benefits?

5) Every additional person in this country increases the pressure on housing.

6) Every low-skilled immigrant increases the supply of Labour and suppresses wages.

7) The increase of immigrants increases the burden on schools, hospitals, police, transport etc. As mentioned earlier, immigrants generally don't earn high salaries and therefore pay little tax in the grand scheme of things. So who do you think will be funding the increase in public services caused by immigration? Clue: British taxpayer.

My view:

Get out of the EU/Freedom of EU movement and apply our points-based non-EU immigration policy to ALL immigrants. This even silences the "our NHS would be finished without immigrants" argument because nurses are favoured within our non-EU immigration policy.

What the left fail to realise is the fact MASS UNCONTROLLED immigration changes communities in the space of months. They become unrecognisable. I live in a place of Mass Immigration and it is not the utopia the left make it out to be. Segregation is rife. The Muslim community stick to themselves, the Irish community to themselves, the English community to themselves, the Eastern European community to themselves, the Black African community to themselves, the Chinese community to themselves, the Indian community to themselves, on and on. Yes, there is some mix and professionally people will work together but socially it is more segregated than ever. You rarely here English spoken from the other communities.

The left spout all this crap about economic benefits, but all I see in this area of Mass immigration is a pit, dirty, high crime, dangerous, poor standards and a culture clash. Where are the benefits for people like us?

Immigration could of worked. If only it was managed, sustainable and mutual. Instead we have different communities reflecting different countries let alone Britain.

the awk moment when u click on an latest discussion and thread was started by someone on your ignore list

*leaves thread*

Here is an actual economic study rather than baseless claims.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/05/eu-migrants-uk-gains-20bn-ucl-study

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It says that European migrants made a net contribution of £20bn to UK public finances between 2000 and 2011.

European migrants to the UK are not a drain on Britain’s finances and pay out far more in taxes than they receive in state benefits, a new study has revealed.

Short answer: Too many people are slaves to the right wing media.

Or they just don't care.

Somebody cannot read:



So its fine to admit thousands of useless immigrants so long as we admit the occasional wealthy one?



Where is the analysis on the burden to public services?

Seriously, this is just so easy.... all day- I could beat your arguments all day!

Tip: Merely telling someone you could 'beat' their arguments all day doesn't mean you're actually doing it!

'Useless immigrants' - this is just a claim. I would refute it but there is literally nothing to refute. I'm not sure what you mean by useless; if you mean claiming benefits, then the fact is that immigrants are far less likely to claim benefits than UK citizens (Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/britons-43-more-likely-claim-4669678).

If sufficient investment was made in public services by the current government then it wouldn't be an issue. That's the real problem, not migration.