Islamophobia is not the same as antisemitism

Can you have a muslim jew? If not Jews are not an ethnicity. Case=solved

According to his logic, If I converted to Judaism I would be a South Asian non-Jew.

Jewish bloodlines are 100% mixed with other ethnicites of their host countries due to the Jewish diaspora. Anybody in the 21st century after thousands of years of mixing with other non-jewish populations who claims that Jews are somehow still an ethnicity are deluded to say the least.

These kinds of semantics are important. The term Islamophobia comes with a lot of weight. If you get called it in public discourse, you could lose your job and become very alienated. What I'm saying is that it doesn't deserve so much weight.

Jewish bloodlines are 100% mixed with other ethnicites of their host countries due to the Jewish diaspora. Anybody in the 21st century after thousands of years of mixing with other non-jewish populations who claims that Jews are somehow still an ethnicity are deluded to say the least.

because people who are literally insane believe in this myth of covert Jewish power.

There's no such thing as islamaphobia.

For those who think that Jews are one ethnicity and can only be one are complete morons. To be considered a Jew by the Jewish community you have to fall within the Jewish bloodline and this ruling is quite lenient as the ruling states if your mother is a Jew you're a Jew. One Jewish women can marry a Black man and have a child. Another Jewish women can marry an Indian man and have child. Both children will be considered 'Jewish' by bloodline but racially this is not so as they are racially different. There are different ethnic groups amongst the Jews and this bloodline ruling can be one of the reasons for this happening. Jews are capable of being different races through this concept of bloodline heritage. You can't claim that Jews are all one 'race/ethnicity' all of a sudden just because they have Jewish blood and a continuous Jewish maternal ancestry. Don't be stupid.

This bloodline ruling is a religious ruling that originates from an odd and old fashioned way of thinking and in no way does it comply with the current scientific way we see or define race/ethnicity. Just because they consider themselves as one 'race/ethnicity' doesn't make it factually so. Just because they're Jews doesn't mean everything they say is socially/logically/scientifically correct and the same goes for Judaism.

Lets keep up with the times and not take everyone's word as truth. Jews are described as an 'ethnoreligious' group. I don't see the word 'race' or 'ethnicity' in there. Jews who suffer discrimination are of the sort who identify as Jews so this discrimination is more towards religious discrimination than actual racism. Considering not all Jews are true Semites it is also questionable as to whether anti-Jewish = anti-Semitism.

Which liberal TSR members talk about Muslims (rather than about Islam as an ideology) in a 'vitriolic' way? Give some examples of things that have been said.

I agree Islam is not a race and Jews can be seen as an ethnic group.

But I'd rather not victimise anyone because both groups have done atrocious wrongs in the name of discrimination and hatred. So I don't get the purpose of this at all.

Now you are misrepresenting what I said.
I'm saying it's inappropriate to draw a distinction between Jews killed for being Jews and Muslims killed for being Muslims.

Do you think in the Bosnian massacre in which 8000 Muslims were killed for being Muslim, that the perpetrator asked each one their views on religion?

Of course they are. But Muslims are also killed and persecuted for just being Muslims.
I don't see the difference in killing a Jew because he's Jewish or killing a Muslim because they're Muslim - both are as bad as each other.

If you go onto The Guardian website, and type "islamophobe" into the comments section, It will be underlined in red, meaning "there is no such word in our dictionary".

If The Guardian does not recognise the existence of "Islamophobe", I think that it is safe to assume that no such thing exists.

A Jew is not a race.

So, you are claiming that Serbian paramilitaries are comparable to current UK sceptics who challenge the verses in the Quran that permit slavery, sex with slaves, wife beating, and the killing of those who oppose Islam.

Fair enough. I understand your position now.

Then I don't understand the relevance of this. Because you're obsessing over the label -rather than the substance. Disliking Islam as a religion is comparable to disliking Judaism as a religion. Just as disliking Jews for merely being Jews is the same as disliking Muslims for being Muslim.

Both ideologies are criticized and both Jews and Muslims have been persecuted for being Jews and Muslims.

You seem to obsessing over the labels of 'anti-semitism' and 'islamapahobia'.

No, you seem to be unaware of the socio-religio-political history of the region. The persecution was very much similar to the persecution of the Jews. It was because of what you were percieved to be, rather than what you actually believed.

People were slaughtered because of their demographic, not because of their religious beliefs. Do you really think that an attractive 18 year old from the Muslim demographic would have been spared gang rape if she claimed to be an atheist?

Grow up!

When most people are accused of being Islamaphobic, they are launching personal attacks on Muslims themselves for being Muslims, rather than for their ideologies.

Funny you're saying that seen as most people who are questioning this are outright Islamophobes themselves who have been guilty of this behaviour.

Criticism of Islam and repeated attempts to demonise Muslims are 2 very different things.

Many example in the religious forums. It would be a waste of time to copy and paste most of the threads in there to prove a point that has already been proven.