Schools given new powers over unruly pupils

this isn't going to work.

surely teachers could already confiscate mobile phones? they did at my school.

"Teachers will be able to discipline pupils outside school too - if they see children behaving badly on public transport, for instance."

wtf? this isn't going to work.

I don't see much of a difference...

Since the actions have the full countenance of the Law behind them, there is every reason to believe it will work.

Whilst a child is in school uniform whether going to school or coming home, they are responsible for their own behaviour that reflects badly upon their school and impacts on the effects of that behaviour on others.

I've added some more information taken from the relevant Education and Inspection Act, 2006 for your perusal.

It's all enshrined in law, and as I said before, it's long overdue.

that happens at the moment doesn't it? at my school some guys got in massive trouble for telling racist jokes on the bus on the way home in their uniform. you don't need legislation to punish people for that.



it will lead to a load of "was excessive force used" cases being brought against teachers.

firstly, the majority of women teachers are not gonna jump in and split up two pupils fighting over the age of about 15/16 because they could get hurt.

secondly a teacher will still be stronger than most pupils (not in the older years) and could easily use excessive force accidentally whilst splitting people up or whatever.

I think that the main thing that comes from this legislation is protection for the teachers from any threat of litigious action funded by the taxpayer by way of legal aid.

Hopefully we will no longer hear of cases where students can use physical force against an adult with impunity...and society can extract justice from belligerent, disrespectful school students by action against inadequate and lazy parents.

a teacher will only be allowed to use "reasonable force", different people have very different ideas of what "reasonable force" entails because of this we'll see a load of law suits over whether actions were reasonable or not. Kids will exaggerate what teachers did to them.


If I was a teacher i wouldn't touch a kid whether backed by this legislation or not because it's far too easy for the kid to exaggerate it, or to use too much force or whatever.


rather than all these stupid "did you fall over on the street because you was too fat to see over your belly where your feet was walking and would you like to sue for millions" adverts on tv, we will see a bunch of "was your kid attacked by a teacher? did the teacher use excessive force? call now for a no win no fee service to seek compensation".

The use of 'reasonable force' has always been a part of our law.

This new legislation enforces the powers of teachers to use reasonable force and passes the responsibility of proof that reasonable force has been abused onto the litigant.

Thud, this Act is not solely restricted to cases of forceful application of rules, but rather adherence to discipline which can only be for the good considering the break down of law and order in this country.

Do you not agree?

I don't think it will work that's all.

with the compensation culture thang we've got going here, it won't work. Teachers will be getting imprisoned for mumsiekin's precious getting hurt in a playground fight.

there are much better ways to combat the increasing crime/arrogance levels in these kids than reverting to giving teachers physical power. what's next? bringing back the cane?

I don't think it will work that's all.

with the compensation culture thang we've got going here, it won't work. Teachers will be getting imprisoned for mumsiekin's precious getting hurt in a playground fight.

there are much better ways to combat the increasing crime/arrogance levels in these kids than reverting to giving teachers physical power. what's next? bringing back the cane?