Not enough is done for disabled students.
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Original post by Katty3
And so can a disabled student. It's about the extra study costs a non disabled student doesn't have.
Original post by Katty3
It's not about having the best, it's about the fact £200 is a lot of money for some people. They say it has to be paid all in one go and not in installments. That seems totally unreasonable to me.
I live in one of the most deprived areas of the country. The child poverty rate is ridiculously high. Nobody has £200 sitting in a bank. Least of all teenagers about to go to uni. Expecting everyone to be able to pay that much in one go is utterly ridiculous. A lot of people can't.
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I live in one of the most deprived areas of the country. The child poverty rate is ridiculously high. Nobody has £200 sitting in a bank. Least of all teenagers about to go to uni. Expecting everyone to be able to pay that much in one go is utterly ridiculous. A lot of people can't.
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Again, the fact that you're from a deprived area has nothing to do with it. As a student (who isn't disabled), if you want your own laptop and you're from a deprived area, you'd be expected to get your own laptop or use your university's facilities to complete assignments. You being a disabled student from a deprived area shouldn't give you an advantage in this respect.
As claireestelle has already pointed out, if you have trouble paying the £200 up front, your university should have a hardship fund which has a non-standard award to help cover the cost of things like this (although, this may come under the standard award if you are very low on cash [you can be awarded both I believe depending on circumstances, or at least I was in first year]). For example, I get help from my university's hardship fund as DSA refuse to refund me the difference in accommodation costs (£1.8k), and I get this help because without it I would be unable to attend university. I wouldn't have to pay this much for accommodation if I wasn't disabled. But I do, and DSA should cover the costs as my needs assessor said, but they haven't (due to crackdowns) - hence I get a non-standard award of bursary money from my university's hardship fund.
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Original post by OU Student
And so can a disabled student. It's about the extra study costs a non disabled student doesn't have.
Nope. To get the specific laptop necessary from DSA you have to pay £200 upfront. You can't have a payment schedule where you pay it off over a year.
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I think its going to be advisable for students to do gap years or get a part time job while studying to be able to afford the necessary things to study. Note that you only need to do 16 hours a week to get Tax Credit top up income. That will help a lot in paying down your debt early or as you study.
I think its also better that disabled students take into consideration going to a university which is close to home so they can commute from home and have no housing costs.
Its a waste of time arguing. Its socially destructive. We should be united. Disabled people are the most oppressed citizens in the United Kingdom. We shouldn't be nit picking at each other over the price of a Laptop.
This reminds me of some American Women saying She got a free Laptop to use at College in a online chat room. The rest of the room then goes crazy. Another Women gets up on microphone and calls her a welfare bum who is stealing tax payers money. When I was listening to this I was thinking what are these people on. It was like Reganism/Thatcherism gone wild with the wind.
OU Student is right to high light that able bodied students do not get the privilege of having a free laptop. Real equality is being entitled to the same resources as every other student. Some students do have special circumstances and I recognize things like Agoraphobia because I have it myself. But then there are also Students who have mobility issues.
If you want change your going to have to campaign for it and put pressure on the Government for policy change.
I think the best kind of change we can make is including able bodied people in our struggle. There should be a struggle against student poverty rather than a struggle just for disabled students. The more united we are the more we can make our ideals heard, known and put into policies.
One good way to unite with other students of all creeds is to make a register of students who need a laptop and would like to make a saving of 5 to 40% off the retail price.
Once you have that register you ring up big companies like Dell and say "I have 100 students who need a laptop and we would like to negotiate on a budget spec". "What sort of price can you offer?".
Haggle as much as you can. Include things like: "I know you give 10% off to people who call you by Phone" and "I know you give companies like Quidco & Topcashback 20% off deals though redirection links". Tell them you could be the sales adviser who is going to make your company a big sale etc. Most advisers will try and hard sell once they've given 30% off or so but keep them on the end of the fishing rod and say can you give me a reference number because my students friends need to reach a consensus on the deal you have offered.
You then ring up and do this to every other company who sells or builds laptops. Keep aware of price match company policies and try and pitch companies against each like saying " Company A is selling this laptop spec less than you. Why should I pay more? Are you prepared to give me a better offer?".
If they give you a better offer take it right away. Majority of Budget Laptops only cost like £50-70 to make. If you can get more than 40% on a bulk order your doing good.
There are a lot of things you can do. I'm currently in the process of creating a people power project for disabled people across the globe and I do need help with it. It depends if you lot have any computing or media skills. I'd rather not mention the full details on TSR though because it will attract unwanted attention.
I think its also better that disabled students take into consideration going to a university which is close to home so they can commute from home and have no housing costs.
Its a waste of time arguing. Its socially destructive. We should be united. Disabled people are the most oppressed citizens in the United Kingdom. We shouldn't be nit picking at each other over the price of a Laptop.
This reminds me of some American Women saying She got a free Laptop to use at College in a online chat room. The rest of the room then goes crazy. Another Women gets up on microphone and calls her a welfare bum who is stealing tax payers money. When I was listening to this I was thinking what are these people on. It was like Reganism/Thatcherism gone wild with the wind.
OU Student is right to high light that able bodied students do not get the privilege of having a free laptop. Real equality is being entitled to the same resources as every other student. Some students do have special circumstances and I recognize things like Agoraphobia because I have it myself. But then there are also Students who have mobility issues.
If you want change your going to have to campaign for it and put pressure on the Government for policy change.
I think the best kind of change we can make is including able bodied people in our struggle. There should be a struggle against student poverty rather than a struggle just for disabled students. The more united we are the more we can make our ideals heard, known and put into policies.
One good way to unite with other students of all creeds is to make a register of students who need a laptop and would like to make a saving of 5 to 40% off the retail price.
Once you have that register you ring up big companies like Dell and say "I have 100 students who need a laptop and we would like to negotiate on a budget spec". "What sort of price can you offer?".
Haggle as much as you can. Include things like: "I know you give 10% off to people who call you by Phone" and "I know you give companies like Quidco & Topcashback 20% off deals though redirection links". Tell them you could be the sales adviser who is going to make your company a big sale etc. Most advisers will try and hard sell once they've given 30% off or so but keep them on the end of the fishing rod and say can you give me a reference number because my students friends need to reach a consensus on the deal you have offered.
You then ring up and do this to every other company who sells or builds laptops. Keep aware of price match company policies and try and pitch companies against each like saying " Company A is selling this laptop spec less than you. Why should I pay more? Are you prepared to give me a better offer?".
If they give you a better offer take it right away. Majority of Budget Laptops only cost like £50-70 to make. If you can get more than 40% on a bulk order your doing good.
There are a lot of things you can do. I'm currently in the process of creating a people power project for disabled people across the globe and I do need help with it. It depends if you lot have any computing or media skills. I'd rather not mention the full details on TSR though because it will attract unwanted attention.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by illegaltobepoor
I think its going to be advisable for students to do gap years or get a part time job while studying to be able to afford the necessary things to study. Note that you only need to do 16 hours a week to get Tax Credit top up income. That will help a lot in paying down your debt early or as you study.
I think its also better that disabled students take into consideration going to a university which is close to home so they can commute from home and have no housing costs.
Its a waste of time arguing. Its socially destructive. We should be united. Disabled people are the most oppressed citizens in the United Kingdom. We shouldn't be nit picking at each other over the price of a Laptop.
This reminds me of some American Women saying She got a free Laptop to use at College in a online chat room. The rest of the room then goes crazy. Another Women gets up on microphone and calls her a welfare bum who is stealing tax payers money. When I was listening to this I was thinking what are these people on. It was like Reganism/Thatcherism gone wild with the wind.
OU Student is right to high light that able bodied students do not get the privilege of having a free laptop. Real equality is being entitled to the same resources as every other student. Some students do have special circumstances and I recognize things like Agoraphobia because I have it myself. But then there are also Students who have mobility issues.
If you want change your going to have to campaign for it and put pressure on the Government for policy change.
I think the best kind of change we can make is including able bodied people in our struggle. There should be a struggle against student poverty rather than a struggle just for disabled students. The more united we are the more we can make our ideals heard, known and put into policies.
One good way to unite with other students of all creeds is to make a register of students who need a laptop and would like to make a saving of 5 to 40% off the retail price.
Once you have that register you ring up big companies like Dell and say "I have 100 students who need a laptop and we would like to negotiate on a budget spec". "What sort of price can you offer?".
Haggle as much as you can. Include things like: "I know you give 10% off to people who call you by Phone" and "I know you give companies like Quidco & Topcashback 20% off deals though redirection links". Tell them you could be the sales adviser who is going to make your company a big sale etc. Most advisers will try and hard sell once they've given 30% off or so but keep them on the end of the fishing rod and say can you give me a reference number because my students friends need to reach a consensus on the deal you have offered.
You then ring up and do this to every other company who sells or builds laptops. Keep aware of price match company policies and try and pitch companies against each like saying " Company A is selling this laptop spec less than you. Why should I pay more? Are you prepared to give me a better offer?".
If they give you a better offer take it right away. Majority of Budget Laptops only cost like £50-70 to make. If you can get more than 40% on a bulk order your doing good.
There are a lot of things you can do. I'm currently in the process of creating a people power project for disabled people across the globe and I do need help with it. It depends if you lot have any computing or media skills. I'd rather not mention the full details on TSR though because it will attract unwanted attention.
I think its also better that disabled students take into consideration going to a university which is close to home so they can commute from home and have no housing costs.
Its a waste of time arguing. Its socially destructive. We should be united. Disabled people are the most oppressed citizens in the United Kingdom. We shouldn't be nit picking at each other over the price of a Laptop.
This reminds me of some American Women saying She got a free Laptop to use at College in a online chat room. The rest of the room then goes crazy. Another Women gets up on microphone and calls her a welfare bum who is stealing tax payers money. When I was listening to this I was thinking what are these people on. It was like Reganism/Thatcherism gone wild with the wind.
OU Student is right to high light that able bodied students do not get the privilege of having a free laptop. Real equality is being entitled to the same resources as every other student. Some students do have special circumstances and I recognize things like Agoraphobia because I have it myself. But then there are also Students who have mobility issues.
If you want change your going to have to campaign for it and put pressure on the Government for policy change.
I think the best kind of change we can make is including able bodied people in our struggle. There should be a struggle against student poverty rather than a struggle just for disabled students. The more united we are the more we can make our ideals heard, known and put into policies.
One good way to unite with other students of all creeds is to make a register of students who need a laptop and would like to make a saving of 5 to 40% off the retail price.
Once you have that register you ring up big companies like Dell and say "I have 100 students who need a laptop and we would like to negotiate on a budget spec". "What sort of price can you offer?".
Haggle as much as you can. Include things like: "I know you give 10% off to people who call you by Phone" and "I know you give companies like Quidco & Topcashback 20% off deals though redirection links". Tell them you could be the sales adviser who is going to make your company a big sale etc. Most advisers will try and hard sell once they've given 30% off or so but keep them on the end of the fishing rod and say can you give me a reference number because my students friends need to reach a consensus on the deal you have offered.
You then ring up and do this to every other company who sells or builds laptops. Keep aware of price match company policies and try and pitch companies against each like saying " Company A is selling this laptop spec less than you. Why should I pay more? Are you prepared to give me a better offer?".
If they give you a better offer take it right away. Majority of Budget Laptops only cost like £50-70 to make. If you can get more than 40% on a bulk order your doing good.
There are a lot of things you can do. I'm currently in the process of creating a people power project for disabled people across the globe and I do need help with it. It depends if you lot have any computing or media skills. I'd rather not mention the full details on TSR though because it will attract unwanted attention.
Sounds very interesting. Can you PM me the details?
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Maybe some of you need to lower your expectations. You seem to expect an awful lot. I've been in the situation (more than once, unfortuantely) where I've actually been discriminated against. The difference being that the things that I should have had, I've actually had to fight for. I've been called a liar on more than once occassion over my medical conditions and so have the perople who diagnosed me. Ok, they do sometimes get it wrong; (something I know only too well) but when you've got 4 or 5 different specialists who have never seen your medical records saying you have the same diagnosis within a few minutes of meeting you, I know I'd rather believe them over a bloody teacher and so-called "support worker". Those specialists have never met each other and work in different departments.
I was actually told that there's no law stating they have to support me. Um, someone is clearly forgetting the Equalities Act. She then went on to tell me that my Autism is actually anxiety, it's impossible for me to have Autism because "I think my dad has it and youre nothing like him" and I just need counselling. It took 2 sessions with a psychiatrist to get a diagnosis, the GP told me within 10 minutes he thought I had it; but couldn't be too sure because of my other medical problems and my sister, who thinks I have it, at the time was doing a degree in Psychology. No-one has ever mentioned anxiety to me. The woman who told me I have anxiety also told me that I'm not visually impaired (despite being on the partially sighted register) and I'm actually Dyslexic. I don't meet the criteria for a Dyslexia diagnosis. The only criteria I meet is reading difficulties. The Educational Psychologist says that's completely normal for someone with a visual impairment.
I was actually told that there's no law stating they have to support me. Um, someone is clearly forgetting the Equalities Act. She then went on to tell me that my Autism is actually anxiety, it's impossible for me to have Autism because "I think my dad has it and youre nothing like him" and I just need counselling. It took 2 sessions with a psychiatrist to get a diagnosis, the GP told me within 10 minutes he thought I had it; but couldn't be too sure because of my other medical problems and my sister, who thinks I have it, at the time was doing a degree in Psychology. No-one has ever mentioned anxiety to me. The woman who told me I have anxiety also told me that I'm not visually impaired (despite being on the partially sighted register) and I'm actually Dyslexic. I don't meet the criteria for a Dyslexia diagnosis. The only criteria I meet is reading difficulties. The Educational Psychologist says that's completely normal for someone with a visual impairment.
Original post by lozzieladybird
I am a disabled student and received a £200 contribution to a laptop. this is to put me at level with other students as otherwise I would have struggled to afford it (my disabilities cost me over £500 a month alone in medication, treatments, taxi's for when I cannot walk ect)
i never accept anything that would put me at an advantage to other students, only aids to make me equal
i never accept anything that would put me at an advantage to other students, only aids to make me equal
Have you applied for a HC1 form which if your income is low enough, will exempt you from prescription charges? If not entitled, there's the pre payment certificate which is £104 per year / £10 per month.
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