Are ISIS muslims?

I gave you an explanation, you said I didn't mention so called explanation in my opening response and now are chatting absolute ****. Save yourself and me the time please.

ISIS go against everything in the image below. There is other stuff too such as not allowing girls the right to education and bombing Mosques etc.

Let me be clear. I don't think Muslims are bad, or that you personally are some sort of evil Jihadist. I don't think ISIS represent Muslims or Islam. That is not the case at all.

My point is that like members of the IRA are often Catholics, members of ISIS are Muslims. You don't have to associate yourself with them to recognise that.

You are technically correct, much of what was done in Christ's name disqualifies the usurpers from deserving to be called Christians but... who holds the ultimate definition of what being a Christian or Muslim amounts to, is there even such thing?

Like with Christianity, there are several branches in terms of interpretation and it would be unfair to pick a particular one as the true voice of God. The same happens within Islam, are Sunnis any more or less Muslim than Shia? There is the death penalty in Saudi and most (all?) other so-called Islamic countries, does that mean they actually are not so?

ISIS' leader is an authority in religious studies, spent a lot of time on the subject and will know exactly where to find the defence against any charges in his religious textbooks. Muslim or just a common criminal?

Tell me how well they respond to you when you take this over to them.

Yes, they are Muslims. No, they don't represent Islam.

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Do you want to come too?

I understand you completely. But I'm not making the emotive argument you are (that they aren't humans etc). They clearly are humans, and they clearly are Muslims. I don't respect them either, but my argument is not an emotive one.

I think the big mistake here is you are judging a whole group as if everyone there is the same.

No they are not judging (Wthell does that even mean)

It's a simple question. Are members of ISIS Muslims

If I had one on the phone right now would he answer yes or no?

I'm not the one telling them they are wrong you are.

I believe them when they say they are Muslims.

I didn't say they weren't Muslims.
Look no.9 in the image

I'm not the one telling them they are wrong you are.

I believe them when they say they are Muslims.

... Did your RE classes tell you Muslims were terrorists?

You're totally correct in that respect, yes.. But as touched upon by zhog, where does the line lie? Are they really Muslims because they say they are yet go on to do such things? Would they be accepted (let's say, hypothetically) by their respective God as a Muslim or Christian? Who is to judge whether they are or aren't and on what basis?

The OP asked whether I think they are, I said no and the posts I've made in this thread are my reasoning behind that.

Muslims? Likely

Representative of Islam? Definitely not (considering all the things they do that are forbidden in Islam)