9/11 real or fake

Depends how one defines the NWO. I'm sure you're sensible enough to know that there are transnational actors whose power and influence extends between and beyond national actors such as heads of state, and to suspect that this upper echelon does not act entirely randomly, never mind moralistically. Any ordered behaviour by said global group, which has risen to prominance in the neo-con age, is, by definition, a New, World, Order

Perhaps you'd be so gracious as to provide some indication as to the basis for your rebuttal

Ordinarily that would do but the probability that someone with your wit could be a sheep are comparable to the probability that Jeremy Corbyn will lead us to victory in World War III

It's all smoke and mirrors. The WTC was never destroyed. The twin towers are still there, concealed behind complex holograms, the hidden heart of the capitalist machine. Thousands of people go to work in them every day, protected by lies from the repercussions of their toying with the market.

People who claim the US government brought down the towers are just tools of the machine, bought off by the IMF to stop you from learning the real real truth.

Huh? How long do you think I've been sceptical of the 'official accounts' for?

I dunno about Bush and the CIA, specifically, but unqeustionably the fingerprints of NWO/House of Saud are all over it

Bush couldn't organise a piss-up in Newcastle, and likely had the wool pulled over his eyes by far more sophisticated operators within his administration

I'm happy you've become enlightened on the topic. I still believe bush was part of 9/11 and the CIA

I'm happy you've become enlightened on the topic. I still believe bush was part of 9/11 and the CIA

You're Muslim as well aren't you?

Demolition experts use a special type of material? It's called a big f***k off pile of sand bags.

The buildings were designed to survive a kamikaze attack? The buildings were designed to cope with a small relatively slowly moving aircraft flying into it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash

I generally tend to find that 'believers' such as yourself tend to be massive under achievers in life and some where on a spectrum.

I can be equally ad hominem but I would prefer not to initially. By the way, you're the one who's called mature student, and people in glass houses really ought not to throw stones. I never said I was a conspiracy theorist, it's called playing devil's advocate. I think you should stick to debating proportionately and not venture off the point otherwise you'll be a mature student forever.

I maintain my statement. Explain to me how those Twin Tower buildings fell into their own imprint...one perhaps would be luck but for two of the buildings to free-fall as though they were through controlled demolition just seems a tad suspicious, as per my above reasoning. Let's assume that these Twin Towers were in another part of the world and let's also assume that there was an enemy who had capability to take down these buildings through an inside job. Let's say Russia were the conspirators. Would we question that Russia could or would do that. Read Operation Northwoodshttp://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf, where the US military chiefs in the 1960s contemplated killing their own citizens, using drone aircraft; the CIA making US jets to look like Mig fighter jets, and blaming the Cubans for it. The aim was to make war against Cuba to destroy Communism.

The conspiracy theory that CIA/Bush/Jews did 9/11 is based on the notion that America needed it to use as justification to later go into Iraq. So I ask you this: since when did America ever need something like this to go to war? Also why not blame it on Saddam Hussein?

I also ask you this: roughly how many individual people do feel were needed in the planning/execution of this?

One more: how come not a single shred of evidence for it came out in the Snowden Wikileaks files?

i think it really happened but the USA knew it was going to happen and let it play out for their own benefit.

somehow i just can't believe that several planes can be hijacked in one of the most secure spaces in the world and no one stops it or suspects a thing??

also, how can those buildings, all the steel, concrete, and all the bodies be obliterated yet magically they found the terrorists passports made out of flimsy paper intact?

how come a plane supposedly hit the pentagon yet there was so little damage, little evidence of plane wreckage and there just happened to be nobody in that section of the building that day?

idk the exact urls but i've watched videos on youtube of firefighters being interviewed moments after building 7 came down and they all say they heard a large "explosion" from it - coincidently building 7 seems to be erased from history.

i don't have time to find all the sources but i've read into it alot and it's the only conspiracy theory i really believe is true - that it was an inside job. you have to admit a lot of things just don't add up and the victims families deserve the full truth.

These are not intelligent people lol


The only people I've ever spoken with who thought it was an inside job were poor Muslims from council estates in Bradford or unemployed neo-Nazis who spend their lives on 4chan or up David Duke's ass.