Could Jeremy Corbyn solve the ISIS problem?

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So when ISIS where closing in around Mount Sinjar raping, torturing and killing every Yazidi and Kurd in their sight they were on the brink of slaughtering everyone Jeremy Corbyn and people of his ilk would have done nothing, if it wasn't for extremely heavy Coalition airstrikes in support if Kurdish forces then everyone on that mountain would have died is that what the moral coward Mr. Corbyn wanted?

Jeremy Corbyn seems to live in a parallel universe where the world is peaceful and the only reason for violence is because of the west.

It's not our responsibility to sort out the problems of the world.

If you have an issue with someone, take it up with them. Don't try and involve us.

Turn to your dictators in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, your Shi'ite friends in Iran and Lebanon, your Kurdish partners in Turkey but please, whatever you do, don't call us anymore!

We are tired of trying to clean up your ****. We give you everything, democracy, liberty, human rights, capitalism, money and you turn around and spit in our faces.

Go and call on the Ruskies to come and give you a hand. We are tired of fighting your battles for you.

Reply 41

Shabalala

Original post by TheArtofProtest

Who is we?

I am British, I despise religion especially Islam but the Yazidis and the Kurds are innocent in all of this I would not stand back and allow a genocide to take place it may not be our responsibility (although we are partially at fault for getting involved in the first place) but whats done is done and if we can prevent innocent people being slaughtered then we should.

You haven't fought any battles so please stop pretending that you are a soldier who would have to put his life on the line to fight Islamists.

Reply 42

User1014865

Original post by KingBradly

He's a collectivist. He's not interested in individual freedom.

What about equality, whether that be individual or collective? That too is under the umbrella of "liberalism".

Reply 43

TheArtofProtest

Original post by Shabalala

I don't particularly care what or who you are. I'm not attacking you, just your rhetoric.

The fact is that I have become disillusioned to intervention. I first thought it was a good thing but then I came to realise that the more attention you give these guys, the more they have to up the ante.

It's a perpetual state of madness, this intervention. If you want to defend yourselves, go ahead. Hell, we'll give you all the ****ing weapons you want so you guys can just go ahead and kill each other.

If we're lucky, we might even get rich at your expense.

Reply 44

nulli tertius

People like Corbyn, and I don't mean left wingers, I mean people with his mind set, always wish to change the problem rather than offer a solution to the problem that exists.

If X hadn't done Y then problem Z wouldn't have occurred.

If the Treaty of Versailles hadn't been so harsh, then Hitler wouldn't have risen, is no answer to the Luftwaffe bombing Warsaw.

We did invade Iraq; we have supported the regime in Saudi Arabia; ISIS exists.

Corbyn offers no solution to where we are now.

I doubt that Jeremy Corbyn could make a cheese and tomato sandwich without ****ing it up.

Reply 47

Hasan_Ahmed

Original post by Howard

I doubt that Jeremy Corbyn could make a cheese and tomato sandwich without ****ing it up.

Maybe that's why his first wife said he was always eating heinz baked beans from the tin without heating it.

Reply 48

Hasan_Ahmed

Original post by nulli tertius

To be fair, he was saying all of it was bad before and during the times we were doing it. It feels like his entire ideology is based around ideas of prevention and not about how to sort out issues that a different government with different ideas has thrust upon you, but are actual. His prevention ideals make sense and we should heed them, and some of his policies are good (although lacking, such as the idea to scrap trident but not to build a counter-nuclear defense program instead like the USA's GMD system) but he wouldn't be a good leader for the UK, especially not now.

Reply 49

ChaoticButterfly

Original post by Iamyourfather

So, Jeremy Corbyn doesn't believe in collective (or individual) freedom and equality?

Before that guy trys to paint Corbyn as a Bolshevik.

Corbyn is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

with a bit of this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism

Reply 50

Howard

Original post by Hasan_Ahmed

Maybe that's why his first wife said he was always eating heinz baked beans from the tin without heating it.

My dad used to do that. Disgusting!

Reply 51

the bear

Mr Corbyn is a thoroughly decent socialist; why he is head of the Labour Party is a mystery. he should be their head archivist or cultural ambassador.
we are at war now; his simplistic right-on nostrums are utterly irrelevant.

Reply 52

Hasan_Ahmed

Original post by Howard

My dad used to do that. Disgusting!

I did it one time. Yuck. If you put some sliced suasages in, a bit of cheese and some coriander, then heat it up for a bit in a pot so some of the water evaporates off, it's great.

Reply 53

thunder_chunky

Yes they did say the same bull**** when Bin Laden was killed. Whinge, whinge, why didn't they capture him instead, whinge, whinge.
Not EVERYONE is going to get a trial, not everyone deserves a trial. If I had to choose between a snatch squad going in to lift them or just killing them, the latter seems better.
In the case of OBL, capture and a trial would have potentially led to years for legal proceedings, and then the trial. In the meantime, there may have neen attempts to release him either through acts of terror or kidnappings, or perhaps just violent revenge attacks. Killing him was better, period. And as much as I respect Paddy Ashdown, I disagree with him on this subject.

Reply 54

nulli tertius

Original post by Hasan_Ahmed

But whether he was right or wrong is irrelevant, we are where we are and "I told you so" won't cut the mustard.

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Reply 55

Hasan_Ahmed

Original post by nulli tertius

But whether he was right or wrong is irrelevant, we are where we are and "I told you so" won't cut the mustard.

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Which is what I'm saying. We should listen to him in terms of what -not- to do in future, but he can't lead.

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 56

Superawesome

yea
lets all blow sh*t up and hop it works

Reply 57

Gears265

Jeremy Corbyn would be the worse prime minister ever for our national security, just another reason why he will not be voted in

Reply 58

sw651

Jeremy Corbyn has done a U-turn on his "shoot to kill only when necessary" plan, if he cannot even decide what policy to follow, how could he potentially solve a very volatile situation. Besides, he wanted to introduce all the immigrants to the UK, which is a key reason that the attacks in Paris took place. He is incapable of making a decision and that for me makes him unable to fix such an issue.