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Never thought I would see the Guardian publish this

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/22/progressive-liberalism-enemy-of-tolerance

...In general today, the left rather than the right, multicultural liberals rather than Tories, are the most likely to defend religious conservatism.


Probably a "let's publish this article to give the impression of balance before returning to the status quo", but it's nonetheless quite significant that the Guardian have allowed it to be published.
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The Guardian is the media embodiment of Tumblr, most of the times you get utter garbage, though on a rare occasion you get something good.
Original post by BobbyFlay
The Guardian is the media embodiment of Tumblr, most of the times you get utter garbage, though on a rare occasion you get something good.
Have yet to find porn on the Guardian though
Original post by Bupdeeboowah
Have yet to find porn on the Guardian though

Most of its journalists and readership are Tits and cocks. Does that count?
Original post by MatureStudent36
Most of its journalists and readership are Tits and cocks. Does that count?
Dicks, actually.
Reply 5
Original post by MatureStudent36
Most of its journalists and readership are Tits and cocks. Does that count?


He shoots and he scores!
'Comment is Free', 'Opinion'.
Original post by Bupdeeboowah
Have yet to find porn on the Guardian though

Got me there.
The Guardian has run a couple of good articles recently actually. Perhaps the wave has crashed.
Ummm, this is Nick Cohen (a right winger) expressing his own opinion....
Original post by James Milibanter
Ummm, this is Nick Cohen (a right winger) expressing his own opinion....


Nick Cohen isn't right-wing.
Original post by KingBradly
Nick Cohen isn't right-wing.


Well he isn't left wing.
Reply 12
I'm a liberal and I completely agree with this article, in fact I'm glad someone's finally made the point! This is not a right-wing article!
Original post by James Milibanter
Well he isn't left wing.


He is.
Original post by United1892
He is.


He isn't. I read his work, what he advocates, it isn't left wing. Also, in recent times, his articles and blogs show little but a deep contempt for the left.
Original post by James Milibanter
Well he isn't left wing.


Well given the fact that what many left-wingers define as "left wing" is extremely narrow (in fact, it's based on your opinions on specific pertinent topics more than any kind of political theory) it seems a bit unfair to lump anyone who criticizes it into the "right-wing" pile. I mean the definition of "left" is not only narrow, but completely illogical.

Nick Cohen is a proper liberal. I know that for sure.
Original post by James Milibanter
He isn't. I read his work, what he advocates, it isn't left wing. Also, in recent times, his articles and blogs show little but a deep contempt for the left.


What is it that he advocates that makes him not left-wing?
Original post by KingBradly
Well given the fact that what many left-wingers define as "left wing" is extremely narrow (in fact, it's based on your opinions on specific pertinent topics more than any kind of political theory) it seems a bit unfair to lump anyone who criticizes it into the "right-wing" pile. I mean the definition of "left" is not only narrow, but completely illogical.

Nick Cohen is a proper liberal. I know that for sure.


I'd agree with you somewhat, he seems to advocate either social liberalism or classical liberalism, which are both right wing, it may not be very far right at all, but right nonetheless.
Original post by James Milibanter
He isn't. I read his work, what he advocates, it isn't left wing. Also, in recent times, his articles and blogs show little but a deep contempt for the left.


His contempt is for exactly what it says in the article. Liberalism where people accept religious conservatism as good. He signed the Euston Manifesto which was made by a group of leftists.
Original post by KingBradly
What is it that he advocates that makes him not left-wing?


Nick Cohen attacked many in this book "what's left?", and he believes they are very bad indeed. They included, Amnesty International, Harold Pinter, Noam Chomsky, the Comment pages of the Guardian, the London Review of Books, Robert Fisk, George Galloway, the Socialist Workers Party, Edward Said, the anti-war coalition and Virginia Woolf.

To go into more detail would take more time, but I will if required.

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