Creepy/ weird are just terms girls use for unattractive guys.

as far as I'm concerned this can also very much be true with regards to guys towards girls - I guess it's psychological; if you make very positive assumptions about a person based on their physical appearance, this will frame subjective things in the best way possible to match that good physical appearance. for example, if a thin good looking girl is lazy and eats a lot, a guy might think "wow, she's so empowered and rebellious to the female-centred expectations of society", but if she were ugly and fat, you might then think "she's a slob" (because her ugliness frames her actions in a worse light because we want to make certain assumptions of their personality to best match what we can see already to make sense of things)

Reply 43

TheonlyMrsHolmes

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This is not completely untrue, although perhaps under the "creepy" scenario it is, because creepy is creepy at the end of the day no matter what you look like.

But it's true (FOR BOTH GENDERS) that the higher the level of attractiveness the more people let things slip.

An example of this from women would be sexism, if a very attractive man who was "courting" them made some sort of sexist remark I'm sure it's much easier to let it slip because he is hot,but if a unattractive man said something sexist her response would probably along the lines of complete and utter disgust.

An common example of men letting things slip would be if the girl is very unintelligent, but "she is hot and she has got a nice body" and therefore it doesn't matter because they want to sleep with her.

These are two very common examples^

Just goes to show what our society is like and how for some reason attractiveness allows people to get away with things that average/unattractive people wouldn't be able to.

Reply 44

PetitBourgeois

Original post by llys

Probably, but so what. Guys talking about ugly girls are not exactly using flattering vocabulary either.

The point is that girls do not admit to rejecting a guy based on his looks 'cos that will be seen as "shallow". So they resort to finding imaginary personality flaws (the first guy is not really creepy or weird, in fact the second guy is worse) to justify why they reject physically unattractive guys.

Also according to this video, guys are openly shallow (even the first guy approaches the girl saying she's beautiful) so there's no parallel case there.

Reply 45

MrFudgeTheGuy

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I've been told by many girls that I'm weird (and that's a compliment). I've been had. My girlfriend isn't really into me. This post ruined my life.

Reply 46

Original post by Longshot700

let's say all.

Plus the guy at the beginning in the video wasn't creepy at all.

He was very creepy. He went up to a complete stranger and started complementing her. That just reeks of desperation. He probably says that to every girl who comes in the door.

Reply 47

Totally Rad

I don't see the problem

If I want advice on finance, I would ask a financial expert

If I want advice on health, I would ask a doctor

If a woman wants the D, I don't see why she should be expected to ask someone she is unattracted to

Reply 48

llys

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Original post by PetitBourgeois

The point is that girls do not admit to rejecting a guy based on his looks 'cos that will be seen as "shallow". So they resort to finding imaginary personality flaws (the first guy is not really creepy or weird, in fact the second guy is worse) to justify why they reject physically unattractive guys.

Also according to this video, guys are openly shallow (even the first guy approaches the girl saying she's beautiful) so there's no parallel case there.

Of course girls are shallow. So what? I don't see how being "honest" about it makes it any better (or worse).

Reply 49

Original post by PetitBourgeois

The point is that girls do not admit to rejecting a guy based on his looks 'cos that will be seen as "shallow". So they resort to finding imaginary personality flaws (the first guy is not really creepy or weird, in fact the second guy is worse) to justify why they reject physically unattractive guys.

Also according to this video, guys are openly shallow (even the first guy approaches the girl saying she's beautiful) so there's no parallel case there.

The truth of the matter is that girls tend to be very wary of strange guys for obvious reasons. If you say something even slightly weird or overly-forward, they will instantly feel scared. It doesn't matter if you look like Brad Pitt: if you come across as creepy or liked you're trying to pick them up, they will be too uncomfortable to even notice.

Reply 50

PetitBourgeois

Original post by llys

Of course girls are shallow. So what? I don't see how being "honest" about it makes it any better (or worse).

Dude, I'm just explaining the video. It's about the alleged hypocrisy of girls not about whether they're polite.

Reply 51

llys

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Original post by PetitBourgeois

Dude, I'm just explaining the video. It's about the alleged hypocrisy of girls not about whether they're polite.

Oh right. Didn't watch the video.

Reply 52

PetitBourgeois

Original post by cole-slaw

The truth of the matter is that girls tend to be very wary of strange guys for obvious reasons. If you say something even slightly weird or overly-forward, they will instantly feel scared. It doesn't matter if you look like Brad Pitt: if you come across as creepy or liked you're trying to pick them up, they will be too uncomfortable to even notice.

I think that's true, I was only explaining what I think the point of the video was.

Reply 53

Longshot700

OP

http://i.imgur.com/CUkrhl.jpg

Original post by cole-slaw

He was very creepy. He went up to a complete stranger and started complementing her. That just reeks of desperation. He probably says that to every girl who comes in the door.

Then how do you do it?

Reply 54

the bear

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Original post by Longshot700

Also I read somewhere the infamous nerd meme guy on the left has a wife now.

Reply 55

Original post by Longshot700

Then how do you do it?

Talk to them like they're a human being rather than a piece of meat in a butcher's shop window?

Reply 56

Longshot700

OP

Original post by cole-slaw

Talk to them like they're a human being rather than a piece of meat in a butcher's shop window?

How do you do that then? Even is you say Hi they think you're creepy.

Plus I don't think giving them a compliment is creepy.

Reply 57

Original post by Longshot700

How do you do that then? Even is you say Hi they think you're creepy.

Plus I don't think giving them a compliment is creepy.

here's a great rule of thumb: don't say anything to a girl in the first five minutes that you wouldn't say to a guy. If you start out with cheesy complements and flirty remarks, it comes across as really desperate and creepy.

It depends how you say hi. If you just barrel across the room and interrupt their conversation to say hi for no apparent reason, that's a bit weird. Its too obvious that you're trying to hit on them.

Always catch a girls eye first and smile. If she doesn't smile back, she's not interested. If she does, you can go and say hi and she will almost certainly be receptive and friendly.

Of course, the same applies in reverse. Quite often if you look around the room whilst you're chatting with your mate, you will find girls catching your eye and smiling at you. If you smile back, they will often come and say hi: alternately, volunteer to by the next round and go to the bar: they will often say hi at the bar (its less intimidating for them rather than approaching a group of guys).

Reply 58

Longshot700

OP

Original post by cole-slaw

here's a great rule of thumb: don't say anything to a girl in the first five minutes that you wouldn't say to a guy. If you start out with cheesy complements and flirty remarks, it comes across as really desperate and creepy.

It depends how you say hi. If you just barrel across the room and interrupt their conversation to say hi for no apparent reason, that's a bit weird. Its too obvious that you're trying to hit on them.

Always catch a girls eye first and smile. If she doesn't smile back, she's not interested. If she does, you can go and say hi and she will almost certainly be receptive and friendly.

Of course, the same applies in reverse. Quite often if you look around the room whilst you're chatting with your mate, you will find girls catching your eye and smiling at you. If you smile back, they will often come and say hi: alternately, volunteer to by the next round and go to the bar: they will often say hi at the bar (its less intimidating for them rather than approaching a group of guys).

Sh*t, I thought that girl smiling at me on the bus meant something.

Thanks for this I guess.

Reply 59

Martin Willmott