Islamic terrorism- Why now?

A legitimate question. Why is it, that since the collapse of the Caliphate with the breakup of the Ottoman empire in the 1910's up to around the late 90s/ early 2000s, Islamic fundamentalism remained relatively quiet on the world stage?

Is it anything to do with revenue from oil in the middle east, funding such acts, and them potentially not having the capacity to commit terrorist acts on the west? Or more "Pressing" affairs from WW2/ the Cold war that meant it may simply have been overlooked by the Western world?

I welcome your views. And no trolling please :smile:

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the rad daddy

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Much of stuff which inspires Islamic terrorism can be traced back to Sayyid Qutb who was an Egyptian Islamic scholar during the Nasser period.

Reply 2

DJKL

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Original post by Phipp91

A legitimate question. Why is it, that since the collapse of the Caliphate with the breakup of the Ottoman empire in the 1910's up to around the late 90s/ early 2000s, Islamic fundamentalism remained relatively quiet on the world stage?

Is it anything to do with revenue from oil in the middle east, funding such acts, and them potentially not having the capacity to commit terrorist acts on the west? Or more "Pressing" affairs from WW2/ the Cold war that meant it may simply have been overlooked by the Western world?

I welcome your views. And no trolling please :smile:

There may be an argument that the internet's ability to take news reporting into the hands of the many from the hands of the few is a significant factor in the increased manifestation and roughly fits the timescale.

There is also reduced trust of mainstream media and therefore more radical opinions now have a stronger voice and a means of spreading such views to an extent far beyond word of mouth communication.

This is of course why all western governments are currently, and somewhat late in the day, gearing up their own use of the internet as a means of combating such messages.

In my opinion the "war on terror" (I hate the phrase) will be a long and very slow process, there is not going to be a knockout blow, it will likely be like a bush fire where as fast as some parts are extinguished other parts, previously thought to be extinguished or not at risk will reignite/ ignite.

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TheArtofProtest

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Original post by Phipp91

A legitimate question. Why is it, that since the collapse of the Caliphate with the breakup of the Ottoman empire in the 1910's up to around the late 90s/ early 2000s, Islamic fundamentalism remained relatively quiet on the world stage?

Is it anything to do with revenue from oil in the middle east, funding such acts, and them potentially not having the capacity to commit terrorist acts on the west? Or more "Pressing" affairs from WW2/ the Cold war that meant it may simply have been overlooked by the Western world?

I welcome your views. And no trolling please :smile:

International Jihadism (i.e: the appeal and inflow of foreign fighters, resources and capital), had remained dormant for over 400 years, until it was revived by primarily, the Western powers who sought to use "Fundamentalists" as leverage against the socialist aspirations and Soviet leanings of the countries in the Middle East.

Other countries in the region, seeing the value and brutal efficiency of such people, paid them patronage, seeking to wield the sword of Jihadism for their own ends.

Little did they know that the Sword of Jihadism which had lain dormant for 400 years, awoke and started to smoulder. With every passing conflict, the sword grew hot and began to press into the flesh of the wielder but still, the patron refused to drop the sword for he still retained the arrogance that only he was worthy to wield the Sword but partly, for fear that it might be used for purposes contrary to his own.

As his own body was consumed by the flames spitting forth fom the Sword, the Patron came to realise that he had awoken a beast that should never have awoken, for it now had a mind and direction of it's own.

As the embers of the Patron flared for one last moment. the Sword of Jihadism could be seen burning brightly in the distance, leaving nothing but a path of devastation and scorched earth.

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hellodave5

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Because 'they' don't like us?...

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MatureStudent36

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Original post by hellodave5

Because 'they' don't like us?...

This.

And the OP is wrong to think it's a relatively new thing. The problems been growing since the 70s.

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Greenlaner

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Original post by MatureStudent36

This.

And the OP is wrong to think it's a relatively new thing. The problems been growing since the 70s.

Islam has been commiting acts of terrorism for over 1400 years. Research the Muslim conquests of India if you want to see the full scale of horrors this poisonous religion and it's followers are capable of when left unchecked. They don't call it "the bloodiest story in history" for nothing.

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College_Dropout

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Why not now? War and terrorism is inevitable

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KimKallstrom

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OP not sure which planet you live on but Islamist terrorism isn't a recent thing. But the reason we're a target is because we (righty) quash their fantasies of Islamic genocide.

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Maira Jay

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Original post by Greenlaner

Islam has been commiting acts of terrorism for over 1400 years. Research the Muslim conquests of India if you want to see the full scale of horrors this poisonous religion and it's followers are capable of when left unchecked. They don't call it "the bloodiest story in history" for nothing.

Poisonous? LOOOOOOL

Reply 10

the bear

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these guys are butthurt because we laugh at their funny beards and robes

:hahaha:

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AlwaysWatching

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Original post by Phipp91

A legitimate question. Why is it, that since the collapse of the Caliphate with the breakup of the Ottoman empire in the 1910's up to around the late 90s/ early 2000s, Islamic fundamentalism remained relatively quiet on the world stage?

Is it anything to do with revenue from oil in the middle east, funding such acts, and them potentially not having the capacity to commit terrorist acts on the west? Or more "Pressing" affairs from WW2/ the Cold war that meant it may simply have been overlooked by the Western world?

I welcome your views. And no trolling please :smile:

Well no, that's not quite accurate. Violence in the Islamic world towards both the "west" and other Muslims has always been prevalent since even before the Crusades. Islamic fundamentalism has always been around. It's only just been termed "terrorism" recently in the past few decades due to the theory of terrorism being dealt by academics etc.

Nothing to do with oil etc.

(edited 8 years ago)

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Greenlaner

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Original post by Maira Jay

Poisonous? LOOOOOOL

Yes, poisonous. A festering cancer on this Earth. Islam is by no means alone in that regard though, just incase you think I am unfairly picking on them. Christianity and Judaism aren't exactly a bed of roses either, and have caused more than their fair share of harm and suffering on this planet. I have no patience for any of these Abrahamic death cults and the psychopathic demon they call "God/Jehovah/Allah/Yahweh".

(edited 8 years ago)

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hellodave5

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Original post by Greenlaner

Yes, poisonous. A festering cancer on this Earth. Islam is by no means alone in that regard though, just incase you think I am unfairly picking on them. Christianity and Judaism aren't exactly a bed of roses either, and have caused more than their fair share of harm and suffering on this planet. I have no patience for any of these Abrahamic death cults and the psychopathic demon they call "God/Jehovah/Allah/Yahweh".

So... religion! (most of them, at least)

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hellodave5

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Original post by MatureStudent36

This.

And the OP is wrong to think it's a relatively new thing. The problems been growing since the 70s.

In line with foreign policy in the Mid East?

You are usually only going to radicalise people against you if they can in some way deem you as worthy of blowing themselves up over. That's not to say that these people are always 'rational' in any way - many are brainwashed! There are always the political reasons too - like what happened in was it Sweden (?) with Anders Brevik (slept wrong probably!).

I am expecting an interesting response - because you may be all for foreign policy, or completely against, with being an ex army man. :P

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Rakas21

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Original post by Phipp91

A legitimate question. Why is it, that since the collapse of the Caliphate with the breakup of the Ottoman empire in the 1910's up to around the late 90s/ early 2000s, Islamic fundamentalism remained relatively quiet on the world stage?

Is it anything to do with revenue from oil in the middle east, funding such acts, and them potentially not having the capacity to commit terrorist acts on the west? Or more "Pressing" affairs from WW2/ the Cold war that meant it may simply have been overlooked by the Western world?

I welcome your views. And no trolling please :smile:

It's a side effect of increased sovereign liberty.

Before the 90's we lived in a world of empires where states were either conquered or post-WW2 forced to pick a side which essentially meant that stability was imposed during the Cold War by strong puppet dictators. With the collapse of the USSR and the victory of the US we've seen a world that is somewhat freer and one of the side effects has been that those states which are culturally inferior and have people not capable of governing themselves have become havens for anarchy.

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username1148663

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Original post by Phipp91

A legitimate question. Why is it, that since the collapse of the Caliphate with the breakup of the Ottoman empire in the 1910's up to around the late 90s/ early 2000s, Islamic fundamentalism remained relatively quiet on the world stage?

Is it anything to do with revenue from oil in the middle east, funding such acts, and them potentially not having the capacity to commit terrorist acts on the west? Or more "Pressing" affairs from WW2/ the Cold war that meant it may simply have been overlooked by the Western world?

I welcome your views. And no trolling please :smile:

After oppressive colonial powers left the region which kept the people their under the thumb and therefore not causing trouble for us there was a period of calm and this ending about 30 years ago.

The instigator for this was the afghan war against the Russians which created a us backed jihad against the Russians.

Since then we have had the argument about western forces invading Iraq in the first gulf war then leaving military bases on Muslim holy land to apparently make it worse after.

This led to the rise of the core of bin ladens crew and everyone knows what happened after the is embassy bombings in Kenya and the attack on a us warship.

But that's all just incidents and the a bunch of nutters backed with Saudi money doing some bad ****.

The real reason this exists is their Quran and Hadith which the terrorists are following and twisting.

This is amplified by modern media tv/mobiles/internet to make it a MUCH bigger problem and where the wider support comes from.

Muslims are the victims of western oppression is how the people of the Middle East feel and their western brothers and sisters buy into that narrative.

And here we are.

This isn't going to end without strong people ruling those countries like Assad, Hussain and gadaffi.

Or a full scale invasion of the entire middle east with millions of troops to weed this out. This would need to be followed by many trillions of dollars to build new infrastructure and social systems with secular law. A 20 year project as a minimum.

No one wants to pay for that
No one has the will for that
No one is brave enough to do that in the face of media and therefore public perception

And lastly Pakistan and Iran have nuclear weapons.

Only the strong man option works.

Rid yourself of these horrible leaders and you notice things get worse and worse as they keep the locals largely in line by their horrible methods but it keeps us safer.

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