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Evaluate the integral of 3dx/15+9cosx
this question is giving me a hard time,I tried to let the cosx=2cos^2(x/2)-1,But cant get the answer so need help

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Reply 1
Original post by shady2.0
Evaluate the integral of 3dx/15+9cosx
this question is giving me a hard time,I tried to let the cosx=2cos^2(x/2)-1,But cant get the answer so need help


Do you mean 315+9cosxdx3 \int 15 + 9 \cos x \mathrm{d}x?
Original post by shady2.0
Evaluate the integral of 3dx/15+9cosx
this question is giving me a hard time,I tried to let the cosx=2cos^2(x/2)-1,But cant get the answer so need help


Can you take a photo of the question?
Original post by shady2.0
Evaluate the integral of 3dx/15+9cosx
this question is giving me a hard time,I tried to let the cosx=2cos^2(x/2)-1,But cant get the answer so need help


If it's as written, look up the Weierstrass substitution: t=tanθ2t=\tan \frac{\theta}{2} - Google is your friend.
Reply 4
Original post by atsruser
If it's as written, look up the Weierstrass substitution: t=tanθ2t=\tan \frac{\theta}{2} - Google is your friend.


You don't need that as such.
Reply 5
Actually, looking at it; it's probably 315+9cosxdx\int \frac{3}{15+9 \cos x} \mathrm{d}x
Reply 6
Original post by Andy98
Actually, looking at it; it's probably 315+9cosxdx\int \frac{3}{15+9 \cos x} \mathrm{d}x
Yeah that is exactly the one
Reply 7
Original post by shady2.0
Yeah that is exactly the one


The t-substitution quoted above is the standard way to tackle integrals like this.
Reply 8
Original post by shady2.0
Yeah that is exactly the one


Ahh well I'd cancel the 3 out first

Original post by davros
The t-substitution quoted above is the standard way to tackle integrals like this.


Is it? Can you not split the fraction?
Original post by Andy98
Ahh well I'd cancel the 3 out first



Is it? Can you not split the fraction?


Hmm, maybe split it but i dont see that getting it anywhere.


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Original post by physicsmaths
Hmm, maybe split it but i dont see that getting it anywhere.


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Oh

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Reply 11
Original post by Andy98
Ahh well I'd cancel the 3 out first



Is it? Can you not split the fraction?


How exactly would you propose "splitting the fraction"?
Reply 12
Original post by davros
How exactly would you propose "splitting the fraction"?
The three will cancel out,but tried to use the the double angle formula for cos and still dont get the answer
Reply 13
Original post by davros
How exactly would you propose "splitting the fraction"?


Ahhhh *******s, just realised I was thinking of it as if was the other way round. Meaning I don't have a clue, which is worrying because I've literally just finished FP2

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Original post by shady2.0
The three will cancel out,but tried to use the the double angle formula for cos and still dont get the answer


As I mentioned above, use t=tanθ2t=\tan\frac{\theta}{2} - this is a standard substitution whose details you can find via Google. Look for "Weierstrass substitution".

You will end up with a polynomial fraction in tt for which you will probably need partial fractions.
Reply 15
Original post by atsruser
As I mentioned above, use t=tanθ2t=\tan\frac{\theta}{2} - this is a standard substitution whose details you can find via Google. Look for "Weierstrass substitution".

You will end up with a polynomial fraction in tt for which you will probably need partial fractions.


Is there not an easier way?:frown:

That looks horrible

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Original post by atsruser


You will end up with a polynomial fraction in tt for which you will probably need partial fractions.


Original post by Andy98
Is there not an easier way?:frown:

That looks horrible

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No need for partial fractions. Integrates to arctan directly after the sub. :smile:
Reply 17
Original post by Zacken
No need for partial fractions. Integrates to arctan directly after the sub. :smile:


Arctan of tan? Yikes

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Reply 18
Original post by Andy98
Arctan of tan? Yikes

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(Not in this case)

But usually, arctan of tan is nice and definitely not yucky.

Arctan(tan x) = x (as long as x lies in a suitable domain)
Reply 19
Original post by Zacken
(Not in this case)

But usually, arctan of tan is nice and definitely not yucky.

Arctan(tan x) = x (as long as x lies in a suitable domain)


Ahhhh....

Dunno if you noticed but I have nightmares about trig - it's terrifying:colondollar:

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